Nintendo WiiU : Thread 04

[jim g]

One thing they can learn despite 10/10 reviews for Super Mario 3D, it isn't a system seller. IMHO the days of Mario shifting millions of consoles have gone. Nintendo new IP. Sony and MS have developed them with 3rd parties and that is where Nintendo could learn from Sony. But, I really don't think they have the people or culture to do that right now they are still Japan focused and appear to have very little knowledge of Western needs. Add that to their woeful network set up and they really have a long way to go to compete in the home console market. Handhelds they are still winning, but for how long?

[randombs]

Ideally next time they'll go for something more powerful than PS4, a stepping stone system between gens that keeps them open to third party support and in with impatient core games but cost effective by the time the next big powerhouse systems are head to head.

Isn't that the problem with the Wii-U? It's sort of between generations and so has been left in the dust now the current gen is here.

They'd have to give up on their philosophy of not selling at a loss to keep up with MS and Sony otherwise they'll be forever releasing last-gen machines due to hardware costs.

Mind you, GameCube is a bit of a beast and was out at the same time as the PS2/Xbox which both sold at a loss I think.

[PaTaito]

No one's ditched 3D. The 2DS is a slightly cheaper alternative for people who don't care about 3D all that much. Games are still, and will always be, developed with 3D visuals.

what are you talking about...the 2ds has no 3d effect, so nintendo clearly ditched 3d for the design.

Here's some new for you, 3d is as good as dead.

[Sam The Man]

Here's some new for you, 3d is as good as dead.

As far as their next handheld machine goes i agree with you. It's a shame too as i actually play almost every one of my 3DS games with the 3D on and it really makes the games look better especially the likes of Zelda.

[sj33]

what are you talking about...the 2ds has no 3d effect, so nintendo clearly ditched 3d for the design.

Here's some new for you, 3d is as good as dead.

I think the point is that Nintendo haven't ditched 3D with the 3DS. The 2DS isn't intended to replace the 3DS, it's a cheaper alternative aimed for a younger audience (hence the slab design). Games are still designed with 3D in mind.

But for what it's worth, I agree that 3D is dead and will not feature on future hardware.

[buster_broon]

Try playing hang on on the 3ds when you are trying to go around corners, because you have to shift the console around your eyeline changes and it just messes with your eyes

[nakamura]

Why use tilt controls?

['Press Start']

I was in Sainsburys today and in the video game section a mother said to her 6 (ish) year old:-

Mum - Haven't we got a Wii U?
Kid - No, we have a Wii.
Mum - What is the difference?
Kid - It's just a Wii but you can play games on the tablet.
Mum - Oh right, well we have an iPad so I guess we do not need to buy that

[Lebowski]

I know people that own it that don't understand it, guy at work got one for his son for Christmas

Him "Can I just get the tablet separately as I have a wii allready"

Me "No it's a new console the pad is just the new controller"

Him "can he take his wiiu pad with him in the car"

Me "No it has to be in range of the wiiu "

[nakamura]

I was in Sainsburys today and in the video game section a mother said to her 6 (ish) year old:-

Mum - Haven't we got a Wii U?
Kid - No, we have a Wii.
Mum - What is the difference?
Kid - It's just a Wii but you can play games on the tablet.
Mum - Oh right, well we have an iPad so I guess we do not need to buy that

I hope you stepped in and did your duty.

[dataDave]

what are you talking about...the 2ds has no 3d effect, so nintendo clearly ditched 3d for the design.

Here's some new for you, 3d is as good as dead.

I'm talking about this:

1) Games are still being developed with 3D visuals, and will be as long as people are still making games for the 3DS. Which could be as far ahead as the next five to six years. So no, 3D is currently far from dead.
2) The 2DS doesn't replace the 3DS in any way. It's a step down for concerned parents, people who don't care for 3D, or for people wanting to save as much cash as possible. If it starts selling more than the LL then we can expect Nintendo to take notice of that.

[dataDave]

Try playing hang on on the 3ds when you are trying to go around corners, because you have to shift the console around your eyeline changes and it just messes with your eyes

Why use tilt controls?

Exactly. It's designed to give the user more than one option. You can either play in 2D with tilt controls or 3D without. You can try slapping everything on at once but you're going to run into problems unless you tilt your head in sync with the unit, which is an arse.

[fishbowlhead]

I hope you stepped in and did your duty.

It's up to nintendo to do this, even dedicated gamers educating every person they know won't make a bit of difference.

Ninty really, really need to get a new advertising agency now, one that can clearly spell out exactly what the WiiU is, does & how it does it. Itle be cheaper than ditching the console all together especially as it already has some great games to build on.

[Guts]

Here's some new for you, 3d is as good as dead.

Here's some newS for you: It isn't.

As for the Wii U, well people are idiots. The Wii U has the best games at the moment, but people are morons and like TEH SHINY which is why they are willing to pay ?400 to play crap like Ryse and Knack when they could be playing real, great games for much cheaper on the Wii U.

[Team Andromeda]

The Wii U has the best games at the moment, but people are morons and like TEH SHINY which is why they are willing to pay ?400 to play crap like Ryse and Knack when they could be playing real, great games for much cheaper on the Wii U.

Or they could just stick with their 360 and PS3 for cheaper games and far better line up of 'great games'.