Nintendo WiiU : Thread 04

[Lebowski]

Wii U stuff looks like its gonna be tomorrows rare games as no one's buying them now. There are some absolute classics coming out on it, The special edition of Bayonetta 2 will probably become very hard to get hold of soon considering they probably only printed like a 1000 copy's of it.

[Team Andromeda]

It's never going to come out on PSbox. Nintendo published it. Buy a Wii U if you wanna play it guys. Lol.

It be on the next gen system next year . SEGA own the IP and after the game flops on the WII I bet SEGA with give the IP to Platiunim for it flop on the X Box one and PS4. Just because Nintendo funded the games production means nothing . MS funnded Mass Effect and Ninja Gaiden 1 and II only for them to come out on SONY machines .

[Paddy]

poor sales for Bayonetta 2, 38,828 in its first week, the first game sold 200,000 over the same period and was considered a flop sales wise.

http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2014/09/25/bayonetta-2s-sees-poor-sales-figures-japan

Hopefully we will see a game of the year version on the xbox one or PS4, I would love to play it but don't have a wiiu anymore.

Its not particularly reassuring that a sequel to one of the best action games ever has only shifted 15% of the original's sales in the first week. It will pick up after release in Europe/the US but this should be clear that the games aren't the problem, the Wii U install base is. What more proof is needed for a title going from the two most popular consoles at the time to the console that is experiencing challenges in the market with shifting units atm?

We might get a renamed re-released in 12-18 months for other consoles perhaps. Depends what the agreement is with Nintendo, whether alternate/renamed versions of the game will be allowed to be released on competitors' platforms.

Then again, even if its considered a commercial flop we should be happy as gamers that at least one developer is willing to make all out fun an entertaining games still (at least whilst they are still around).

[Neon Ignition]

It'll all rest on Sega, though given they had no interest in it even getting made until Nintendo decided to foot the bill I'm not expecting them to show much interest in porting it

[Pikate]

The problem is that at this point Nintendo have bred their console owners to only care for/buy Nintendo games.

Whether Nintendo drove those customers to move to Xbox or Playstation as their primary console or Nintendo developed such a beaten housewife mentality among their most vocal audience that there's now no-one to call them to account for barren release schedules and missed opportunity after missed opportunity I'm not sure. As someone who's only console is a Wii U now (and it's a great machine) I feel something stinks looking at the upcoming release schedule.

I'm also worried about the sudden move to cheapen the brands... Putting costumes in Bayonetta is fun and interesting enough, Mercedes-Benz x MK8 is a little out of place but ok, things like Hyrule Warriors however become a slippery slope and results in the likes of what Sega and Disney are today. I definitely think Nintendo will let Sega port Bayonetta 2 once it's no longer of any use to Wii U sales, I just hope that doesn't mark the end of Nintendo consoles and Nintendo becoming a third party dev :/

[nakamura]

Bayonetta may be a great game but the actual art and content is so irritating it will never be in my disc drive.
Perhaps Platinum should have spent more time on their horrifically dated art concepts as the gameplay hardly needed much refinement.

[Nu-Eclipse]

just hope that doesn't mark the end of Nintendo consoles and Nintendo becoming a third party dev :/

For all my criticism of the Wii U, I personally don't see Nintendo "doing a Sega" anytime soon - they have billions of pounds, and that's just money sitting in their bank account and not even taking into account their other valuable assets.

What do they do next after the Wii U? At this point, I'll be damned if I know. The whoring of their IP through things like Hyrule Warriors and Bayonetta 2 DLC is hardly any surprise now - that's what they're reduced to now in an effort to try and boost unit sales to try and attract bigger-name third-party devs. Vicious cycle.

[Team Andromeda]

For all my criticism of the Wii U, I personally don't see Nintendo "doing a Sega" anytime soon - they have billions of pounds, and that's just money sitting in their bank account and not even taking into account their other valuable assets

No, Nintendo not do a SEGA or SNK or Atari but I'll think they might do a possibly NEC . Where not enough gamers will buy their nexg gen console the make the console bunisess truly viable (give the high costs of any console R&D) and I can see a point where Nintendo go Handheld only. Nintendo have lost massive amounts of gamers and 3rd party support and like it or not, you need them to make any console worth selling at retail

[nakamura]

Third party PS4 games. They will sell millions.

[speedlolita]

Wii U stuff looks like its gonna be tomorrows rare games as no one's buying them now. There are some absolute classics coming out on it, The special edition of Bayonetta 2 will probably become very hard to get hold of soon considering they probably only printed like a 1000 copy's of it.

15300 copies and they sold out in 2 days.

Those Wii U sales hardly surprise me when you consider the state of gaming in Japan, the fact that the console has only been out two years (compared to the 360 + PS3 install base at the time of the original game) and the fact that the Wii U has been slow in sales terms anyway.

But none of these things affect me and the fact that the game is scoring extremely well makes me sad that people are looking so intently at figures as if they affect the quality of the product.

[Pikate]

Was always going to be slow for Bayonetta 2 in Japan, the first game (combined PS3 and 360) sold twice as well in Europe and three times better in the US. Plus Nintendo's Japan audience can be summed up by the fact that as a rule Nintendo sell about half as many copies of a Wii U game in Japan as the US (TW101, MK8, SM3DW) yet:

Wii Party U

US: 0.22M
Europe: 0.28M
Japan: 0.79M

[Nu-Eclipse]

No, Nintendo not do a SEGA or SNK or Atari but I'll think they might do a possibly NEC . Where not enough gamers will buy their nexg gen console the make the console bunisess truly viable (give the high costs of any console R&D) and I can see a point where Nintendo go Handheld only. Nintendo have lost massive amounts of gamers and 3rd party support and like it or not, you need them to make any console worth selling at retail

Nintendo go handheld only? In an era where iOS and Android devices are eating everybody else's lunch sales and profits-wise?

I really doubt it.

[speedlolita]

Isn't that the kind of thinking which suggests that specialised gaming hardware is now redundant?

[parkinho]

Hang on - people still think Bayonetta 2 might appear on the PS4/Xbox One?

Regarding Nintendo's next console, I'd be amazed if it wasn't some hybrid home/portable console based on their recent restructuring to merge their hardware divisions.

[Nu-Eclipse]

Isn't that the kind of thinking which suggests that specialised gaming hardware is now redundant?

Specialised portable gaming hardware might not be completely redundant, but it's certainly less relevant than it was.