Nintendo WiiU : Thread 05

[RuBiQ]

As a paying subscriber, i'll spend my time in whatever thread i like, thankyou very much. Most of this is lively banter/discussion - please dont take it too seriously.....

Would you not prefer to post in threads of consoles YOU ENJOY rather than ones where you just try and force your negative opinions on others.

seems a bit moronic to me paying subscriber or not..

[RuBiQ]

The GC had a few fun titles in its day but Ive enjoyed the WiiU far more than I enjoyed my cube
trying to fire off the games I recall enjoying back when it got plenty of console time
Super Mario Sunshine
Luigis Mansion
Super Monkeyball 1/2
Rocky
Mario Party 4 and 5
Wario Ware
Zelda 4 swords

Although I own Fire Emblems and Skys of Arcadia now and not in there release eras I still dont think its a good a console as the wiiU 'in my opinion'

[nakamura]

The Nintendo defence force is amazing.

Talking game play mechanics is all well and good but when a game like Bayonetta 2 is wrapped up in the most unappealing package of all time, hardly bothered how good the game play might be. I'll just play DmC.

Anyway. As dull as the XBox and PS4 consoles are with their generic output, Nintendo are just as generic.
Their output used to be so diverse but the Wii U just feels overloaded with safe platform games and other irritating colourful games. Not that I am against colourful games but they lack diversity.

It's knowing what Nintendo are capable of compared to what they actually deliver that irks me.

[Team Andromeda]

I've done plenty of explaining already in both the MK8 and Bayo 2 threads

Not really and nothing that would lead to anyone things Mario 8 is a complete departure of the generic Mario Kart games of years gone buy . I like Mario 8 but lets not make out its nothing more than Mario Kart refined and in High Def with new levels

There's no need for me to buy yet another FPS with added bits from MMOs.

4 hrs ? . I think one needs to play Destiny, just a bit more and then you'll see its a bit more than a generic FPS - not thats a bad thing either when its made and done as well as Destiny.

The Gamecube was pants. In my opinion it had the worst first party support of all Nintendo consoles

The last great console that Nintendo made that enjoyed great support from NCL was the N64 imo . I love the Cube though but for me the Wii and Wii U are really total letdowns and the Wii Is the worst console I've owned after the Jag with a control pad almost as lame

[speedlolita]

Maybe I was too young to know better but the Cube had excellent first party property efforts (Prime being made by Retro, GX made by Sega) as well as Cube only third party titles such as Gotcha Force and P.N.03 - plus Viewtiful Joe before it went to PS2, RE4 also.

[dvdx2]

Would you not prefer to post in threads of consoles YOU ENJOY rather than ones where you just try and force your negative opinions on others.

seems a bit moronic to me paying subscriber or not..

This forum is full of debate, both positive and negative. Look on the ps4 /xbox one threads to see the exact same opposing opinions. I thought that was the point of a 'discussion' thread. Are we only allowed to discuss positive things?

I've owned a wiiu twice, and think nintendo have totally ruined its potential and actually felt abit ripped off at times during ownership.

[Team Andromeda]

Are we only allowed to discuss positive things?

Only when it comes to Nintendo lol

[dataDave]

It's the seemingly ignorant perspective in which the negativity is discussed that grates.

Nintendo have a ton of faults, their recent output "lacking diversity" is the least of them.

And anyone who thinks SM3DW is a rehash of SM3DL is a bell-end, let's set that straight.

[Nu-Eclipse]

It's the seemingly ignorant perspective in which the negativity is discussed that grates.

This could easily also be applied to those on here who are steadfastly convinced that Nintendo can do no wrong ever.

[dataDave]

Is there anyone like that, though?

[Nu-Eclipse]

Is there anyone like that, though?

On here? On this thread? We all know there are. Not going to name names but it's obvious.

[MrKirov]

It's the seemingly ignorant perspective in which the negativity is discussed that grates.

People in glass houses and all that.

[dataDave]

The Nintendo defence force is amazing.

Oh, here we go again… I probably come across as a Nintendo fanboy, not that I care. Although I’m not, I’m a fanboy of quality software. Software which currently Nintendo only seem to be capable of delivering. Some indie devs can pull a cracker out here and there, but I’ve never really considered indie titles to be “main course” gaming.

Talking game play mechanics is all well and good but when a game like Bayonetta 2 is wrapped up in the most unappealing package of all time, hardly bothered how good the game play might be.

Wow! Really? That's a good way to let people know that they should steer clear of anything you might have to say about how a game plays in future.

For what it’s worth Bayonetta 2 isn’t anywhere near the seemingly endless mechanical depth of the first game. I’ve never championed the sequel, especially not after it turned out like a Ninja Theory game, but disregarding it because of something petty like character designs is the wrong attitude to take. Iit’s no different to all the “Donte” haters who didn’t give DmC a chance.

Anyway. As dull as the XBox and PS4 consoles are with their generic output, Nintendo are just as generic.
Their output used to be so diverse but the Wii U just feels overloaded with safe platform games and other irritating colourful games. Not that I am against colourful games but they lack diversity.

What’s a “safe” platform game? How can any platformer take risks by diverting from the standard formula? Haven’t NSMBU (challenge mode)/NSLU, Rainbow Curse, and Toad done this enough already? Who knows what refreshing elements Yoshi could bring.

I’m guessing any future innovations will simply be branded as “gimmicks” anyway. I’m not into Kirby at all, but at least it’s trying something new whilst fully utilizing the gamepad. But no, it’s a gimmick! People don’t want innovation, but they’re bored of the same-old same-old. There’s no winning really, is there? How do you expect them to break this paradigm and deliver absolutely groundbreaking, revolutionary, never before seen software? What are your expectations?

Don’t say Super Mario Galaxy 3.

It's knowing what Nintendo are capable of compared to what they actually deliver that irks me.

Another blanket statement. What are Nintendo truly capable of exactly? Again, what are your expectations? How would you deliver Mario Kart 8 or Smash Bros any better than what they have done? Would you add even more stuff? Change the gameplay radically whilst taking a massive risk in alienating their biggest fanbases? Simply not bother making the game to begin with? (F-Zero, Metroid, Wave Race, Pilot Wings…)

4 hrs ? . I think one needs to play Destiny, just a bit more and then you'll see its a bit more than a generic FPS - not thats a bad thing either when its made and done as well as Destiny.

Yes, it’s a bit more than the generic FPS. Just a bit. That bit being the more positive social aspects, such as raiding and team-work, which coincidentally have been done better before, years ago… in both FFXI and WoW. I’ve rinsed Halo, and both of those MMOs (to an extent, not as much as most people). Destiny offers nothing else apart from grind, and to be honest I have much better games to be playing than mindlessly chasing Exotics. The base gameplay did absolutely nothing to excite, despite having the money in my pocket and the permission from my wife to pick up a console. I'd rather stick to a proven $15 e-Sports title with an infinite skill ceiling on my four year-old laptop.

for me the Wii and Wii U are really total letdowns and the Wii Is the worst console I've owned after the Jag with a control pad almost as lame

Arghh… No! Metroid Prime 3? Sin and Punishment 2? The Galaxy games? G.H.O.S.T Squad? MadWorld? Xenoblade? Say what you want about the Wiimote, but it's both essential and superior for games which require an aiming reticule. Or were you one of those that preferred to play the likes of Virtua Cop and HOTD with a pad?

People in glass houses and all that.

Please, elaborate. I’m a big boy, and I think I can handle myself intellectually around here. Not that that’s hard given the opposing post quality c. 2006.


Where are Capcom and Namco? And on a slightly lesser extent Konami? What are they doing other than wasting time and IP?

[dvdx2]

It's the seemingly ignorant perspective in which the negativity is discussed that grates.

Mate, you do realise that this is what you do on other threads.......

[PaTaito]

Why dont you pop off and buy it then instead of spending your free time in a thread about a console you care so little about.. ? :/

Does that even have to be explained?

If people have been into gaming for many generations, then why wouldn't they always want to discuss the good and bad of any big gaming house, irrespective of owning the particular console?

For me other than a few real gems, nintendo have been an absolute shadow of what they once were.

They should have continued to take hardware serious after the GC instead of the misguided(in the long term)attempts to capture a whole new market...the market that seems to have now abandoned them.

Bayonetta 2 was nice and all but really that's the big exclusive they secure lol...a game which is wasted on 90% of genral players? They needed a real AAA third party game like GTAV.

Where are Capcom and Namco? And on a slightly lesser extent Konami? What are they doing other than wasting time and IP?

Konami are miles ahead of capcom and namco for **** ups...surely hideo kojima is the only decent thing they have left.