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    I might try Starfield after it’s had a couple of years ‘extra’ in the oven. Just get it out ASAP wonky AF and let the modding community do the rest. That’s the best thing about Bethesda RPGs.

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      Originally posted by Cassius_Smoke View Post
      The Xbox subreddit has some Stockholm syndrome levels of delusion going on.

      From what I gathered:

      Flintlock > Horizon forbidden west

      Wo Long > Bloodborne

      Starfield > Any space exploration game

      Lightyear > xenoblade
      Yeah that's crazy talk. I thought Wo Long looked good but if it's a souls type game it's probably not for me.

      Flintlock is a maybe but still looks a bit rough around the edges. It could be worth a look though.

      Starfield, well the current comparisons to No Mans Sky are a bit laughable. Sure they have a similar design aesthetic (though with Starfield going for a more realistic approach) but that's where it ends... No Mans Sky is not a fully fledged RPG.

      With 6-9 months left for Starfield I just hope they can improve on the framerate and general gunplay, maybe raise the bar a bit more on the NPC characters in dialogue etc... I think what is there is great, but it needs more finesse.

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        I don't get the NMS comparisons for Starfield at all, it's such a poor comparison and frankly Starfield looks much better. Even if Starfield needs patching for bugs etc it's hardly a win to compare it to NMS which has literally spent years making up for its launch. Starfield is blatantly literally Fallout in space, all the comparison anyone needs

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          Originally posted by nonny View Post
          With 6-9 months left for Starfield I just hope they can improve on the framerate and general gunplay, maybe raise the bar a bit more on the NPC characters in dialogue etc... I think what is there is great, but it needs more finesse.
          You're going to need a PC for that, especially the frame rate part. Not that frame rate is very important with an RPG.

          I'm mostly concerned by the LOD pop-in on those rocks and debris. Seeing as this is the Creation Engine that'll absolutely no doubt be fixable with some basic .ini tweaks. They must have restrained the distance to salvage the performance.

          This is Bethesda we're talking about. It's probably not going to end up looking anywhere near as good as that clip on a console, certainly not at 4K/60FPS.

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            The game looked good, I thought. Whatever to the framerate and LOD and QWERTYUIOP and all the rest of it, it's Skyrim in space and I for one am looking forward to it

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              Exactly. Hoping for all that fixing up really is pissing on the wrong front door. I’m looking forward to the base game purely for the utterly hilarious jank.

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                Star Field looked like it could be lots of fun skyrim in space is exactly what i want, "adventure awaits Hazarrr"

                I thought High on life looked brilliant gave me real vibes of odd world strangers wrath with the living ammo, that talking knife called Mr Stabby had me in stitches.

                Redfall I'm really interested in too looks a lot more interesting than Back for Blood and rather than being a homage to 4 player Valve games of old it looks like its got a lot more meat on its bones with the ability's and varied character classses.

                The Last Case of Benedict Fox looked really cool too so am looking forward to that loved the setting and the

                Forza Horizon Hotwheels Expansion looks like Bottled sunshine so I'm really looking forward to that i picked up the official Hotwheels game and found it a bit lacking as its all set in dull looking basements and dark houses.

                Everything else looked pretty Dire to me, Flintlock looked like they where trying to tick equality boxes and have created a very bland looking world with a very bland looking cast of characters. Ark looked like a **** Horizon zero dawn and somehow managed to look worse graphically in its CGI than an actual game running in engine, Normal track based Forza games bore me. Wo Long i thought was a remake of some old 360 IP and looks very unoriginal and very ropey. Gunfire Reborn looked like an ios game. i could go on but it feels like kicking a company when their down.
                Last edited by Lebowski; 13-06-2022, 12:01.

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                  Have to say, re-watching stuff like Redfall and Starfield in a 4K stream is a lot better... just watched them on my TV via the console and it was a big improvement.

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                    Strange the amount of people on here ignoring Diablo4, a big game series which has always played really well and seems to have returned to the Darker looking D2 rather than D3's look.

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                      I'm amazed by the slack Starfield is getting on account of it being 'Ol' Bethesda'.
                      This isn't a third party company anymore. They are Owned by MS and are making Starfield only for Xbox. They can't get a free pass if they release it with Jank and glitches just because it's Bethesda.
                      If Horizon released in a mess it'd be ripped apart.
                      It needs to release without issues.

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                        I'll probably give D4 a look when it appears but I'll admit, Diablo is very much a franchise I see as having its wheelhouse amongst PC gamers. I know they've been ported over and D3 had a fair bit of exposure but I think in console terms it's not a big draw so GP will likely be a good fit for it for exposure.

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                          Having gone through a few of the bigger hitters again. D4 and Scorn are the only ones I'd have a go with.
                          Scorn looks like if HR Giger did Quake. It might be pants, but its got a unique look at least.

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                            Originally posted by Cassius_Smoke View Post
                            Having gone through a few of the bigger hitters again. D4 and Scorn are the only ones I'd have a go with.
                            Scorn looks like if HR Giger did Quake. It might be pants, but its got a unique look at least.
                            Scorn isn't a shooter so it's not worth comparing it to Quake. It's more of a first person horror adventure... there's very little shooting and zero narration/dialogue.

                            It's very unique in style though so like you I'm up to playing it through, in the dark, with headphones.

                            Apparently id Software is going to show anything they're working on at Quake con, so if they are making the rumoured Quake remake then it'll get shown there. I'm a massive Quake fan so I'm hopeful it's real and on a par with the marvellous stuff they did with Doom.

                            As for Starfield, well MS were right to delay but at the same time remember that Bethesda aren't first party in the same way Guerilla games are for Sony. They are still a standalone company in many respects... though you're right, they should still aim to release bug free and optimised etc... equally we know what their engine is like and where it falters and it's obviously on a much, much larger scale to games like Horizon.

                            I'm never playing this on PC so really as long as it gets refined and fixed up over the coming months and launches in better condition I think that's the best we can hope for.

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                              Originally posted by Cassius_Smoke View Post
                              I'm amazed by the slack Starfield is getting on account of it being 'Ol' Bethesda'.
                              This isn't a third party company anymore. They are Owned by MS and are making Starfield only for Xbox. They can't get a free pass if they release it with Jank and glitches just because it's Bethesda.
                              If Horizon released in a mess it'd be ripped apart.
                              It needs to release without issues.
                              MS seem to get a full pardon these days for whatever state games come out in just because of gamepass. In reality MS seriously need to pull their finger out and start managing these studios properly, forza & a half arsed halo do not a successful lineup make.

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                                Bethesda will likely lose its place of prominence in the Xbox eco-system and these events within the next 2-3 years. In the wake of the Activision buyout they're now a small fish in a big pond

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