PlayStation 5: Thread 05

[doodledude]

That sounds awfully low, do lites have the pre version 2 battery in them? My current oled switch gets about 5 to 6 hours on a charge.

I bought it in October 2021, so not sure what battery is in it. I've not held a normal switch but I imagine its a bit chunkier so probably has a slightly bigger battery than the lite?

[importaku]

I bought it in October 2021, so not sure what battery is in it. I've not held a normal switch but I imagine its a bit chunkier so probably has a slightly bigger battery than the lite?

I think the ver 2 batteries came in when the regular switches started coming in the red box. Not sure if lites share the same sized battery as a regular switch but the newer battery they started using was a decent upgrade.

this is the problem going back to the topic, graphical power comes at a battery cost. Even the switch is capable of a bit more but Nintendo underclocked it to stop the battery been wiped out you can overclock via modding but it tanks the battery life, it’s the balancing act that Nintendo seems to understand but very few others do.

Until battery tech vastly improves its going to be a problem. Releasing something like a portable ps5, the only way I could see it work is via cloud streaming so it doesn’t need the internals of a ps5 so would consume way less battery power.

[wakka]

I think you're underestimating how far technology has come to be honest mate. A portable PS5 is basically already available, in the sense a Steam Deck will run games like Horizon Forbidden West. Yeah the battery life isn't brilliant with software that demanding, but you'll still get a couple of hours out of it, and that's with the mobile technology of nearly three years ago (plus an RRP of £350).

Or look at what phones and tablets are capable of graphically now. The top of the line iPhones run ports of stuff like Death Stranding and Resi 4 Remake, and they're physically tiny (with commensurately smaller batteries) compared to Steam Decks/Switches.

I think a future Sony portable would be more than capable of running the PS5 library with reasonable battery life.

[fishbowlhead]

I think you're underestimating how far technology has come to be honest mate. A portable PS5 is basically already available, in the sense a Steam Deck will run games like Horizon Forbidden West. Yeah the battery life isn't brilliant with software that demanding, but you'll still get a couple of hours out of it, and that's with the mobile technology of nearly three years ago (plus an RRP of £350).

Or look at what phones and tablets are capable of graphically now. The top of the line iPhones run ports of stuff like Death Stranding and Resi 4 Remake, and they're physically tiny (with commensurately smaller batteries) compared to Steam Decks/Switches.

I think a future Sony portable would be more than capable of running the PS5 library with reasonable battery life.

I don't see Sony or MS tying themselves with set hardware on a handheld now or in the future, when a streaming device will just scale through a whole generation, trying to constantly hobble your game to run on both hardware obviously isn't the way to go, as MS have proven this gen. You either have to go the Switch/Steamdeck route of 1 fits all, or a main home console with a streaming handheld, the old way of a home & separate handheld is pretty fanatically crippling now, and impractical to support with games.

[Neon Ignition]

With the way new generarional leaps are a thing of the past I can see why they'd go for a PSP3. I don't think it'll be streaming based, they'll just sell it as PS on the go versus the home systems visual advantage. In a way it's a more marketable version of the Series S because single users are more likely to buy both models. Going off this gen PS5 era software will standard well into the 2030's

[hudson]

Not sure if Im into this idea. Games a few and far between as it is. Unless when they make a new PS5/6 game, they can have a scaled down version on their handheld ala Series S style

[wakka]

I don't see Sony or MS tying themselves with set hardware on a handheld now or in the future, when a streaming device will just scale through a whole generation, trying to constantly hobble your game to run on both hardware obviously isn't the way to go, as MS have proven this gen. You either have to go the Switch/Steamdeck route of 1 fits all, or a main home console with a streaming handheld, the old way of a home & separate handheld is pretty fanatically crippling now, and impractical to support with games.

I wouldn't see it as a separate platform in the way that Vita was to PS3/4, or 3DS was to Wii/Wii U. I agree that model is dead now, and also frankly unnecessary since mobile technology has moved on so much.

I'd see it as the same platform, running the same games so it wouldn't require separate support as the game library would be shared.

I think it's more than feasible as game engines are pretty flexible these days. The Series S has 99.9% the same game library as the PS5 Pro, but it's less than a third of the price. The resolution/effects/framerate just gets adjusted but the actual game is the same. Which is really different to how it was back in the day when handheld meant GBA and home console meant PS2.

[fishbowlhead]

The Series S has 99.9% the same game library as the PS5 Pro, but it's less than a third of the price.

It really doesn’t.

As the steam deck as prooved, yes it can run modern games, but they are utterly hobbled, with loads of fiddling by the user to get them running at an acceptable level, usually no way near 60fps.

They will both be streaming devices, I just don’t see it practically working any other way.

[wakka]

Eh? It's only the Sony exclusives that aren't on it.

As the steam deck as prooved, yes it can run modern games, but they are utterly hobbled, with loads of fiddling by the user to get them running at an acceptable level, usually no way near 60fps.

I don't really think that's true to be honest mate. Modern AAAs are widely played and enjoyed on Steam Decks and other portable PCs like the Aya Neo. People play all the way through Elden Ring, Cyberpunk, etc, without probs.

By design, they're a bit tinker-y but there's no reason why Sony couldn't deliver a more streamlined experience. Their first party games would no doubt be highly optimised for any handheld they made.

Honestly, I'm surprised you don't feel it's technologically viable. It's really already a thing, and by two or three years time when we might see Sony/MS handhelds, the tech will only have improved further.

I think it would be cool!

[fishbowlhead]

Eh? It's only the Sony exclusives that aren't on it.



I don't really think that's true to be honest mate. Modern AAAs are widely played and enjoyed on Steam Decks and other portable PCs like the Aya Neo. People play all the way through Elden Ring, Cyberpunk, etc, without probs.

By design, they're a bit tinker-y but there's no reason why Sony couldn't deliver a more streamlined experience. Their first party games would no doubt be highly optimised for any handheld they made.

Honestly, I'm surprised you don't feel it's technologically viable. It's really already a thing, and by two or three years time when we might see Sony/MS handhelds, the tech will only have improved further.

I think it would be cool!

We’re already at the point where we need a more powerful Pro model to keep up with 60fps, a handheld with set specs will only exasperate this issue many fold, and only get worse as the gen goes on, especially with the poor 3rd party optimisation we see nowadays as well, i mean how many games are released now days in an appalling alpha state? way too many.

Theres also the price point, it will be way out of reach for the average person to get a decent power-price ratio. Eh, I just don’t see it working on any level in today’s environment, it will just be a distraction when they should be spending that time and resources on games.

[Neon Ignition]

Most likely games would only run in a handheld profile, very likely optimised for 30fps in most demanding cases. As such there'd be no need for settings by the user (as there barely is on Deck/PC for most anyway), it'd be hardly any different than playing on Switch 2 except for presumably being more powerful than that handheld. Being Sony they can probably get away with a pretty high price tag on it too, most likely in the region of £499.

Though an expected consideration and one that re-fires across Nintendo's bow if it happens - this should really light up the MS Exec's sign post if true. Literally - just get out of the hardware market. A handheld Xbox literally only makes sense in the context that Sony doesn't also make one.

[hudson]

I could mistaken, but I'm seeing on resetera that the new PS5 update features an option to boot the PS5 in PS1 mode? I canae check capn, Im oot work.

[randombs]

I could mistaken, but I'm seeing on resetera that the new PS5 update features an option to boot the PS5 in PS1 mode? I canae check capn, Im oot work.

Nice!

PS1/2/3/4 boot up and themes!

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/ps5-adds-limited-time-ps1-boot-up-and-customizable-themes-based-on-previous-consoles/

[fishbowlhead]

I could mistaken, but I'm seeing on resetera that the new PS5 update features an option to boot the PS5 in PS1 mode? I canae check capn, Im oot work.

Don't think this is a thing, theres nothing on Era or any gaming sites..

Edit, hmmmmmm as above seems it is! nice!

[Tobal]

Similar to the PS4 getting a official Psone theme 5 years ago, that was on lock for me.