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    Micro fibre cloth? What I always use anyway.

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      Yeah, that's what I use. If there are tough stains, I use a bit of warm water, and then one of those special textured cloths that avoid leaving streaks.

      With that said, I don't think there's any way to clean some gloss black surfaces without scratching them. Panasonic this year made the REMOTES out of this stupid finish. This is my brand new ST50 remote after being used for about 5 minutes:

      I guess it's good they got the displays so outstandingly good this year, I can forgive them for the remote design snafu:

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        Ok. My latest accidental acquisition.

        A panasonic th-37pv500b

        My Dad was getting rid of it because it wasn't digital. He was going to pay someone ?9 to take it away, so I took it away for free!

        Does anyone have any insight into this model? I think it is 720p only, Dreamcast through VGA looks good though.

        Can't decide whether it is worth keeping or selling (for probably quite a small amount!)

        Any help would be appreciated, Lyris, I'm probably asking you here!

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          It's from around 2005 - 2006 I think. I didn't review Plasmas at that time, given how fast this stuff moves it probably isn't worth selling? Sounds great for free though, will probably look better than most cheap new LCDs.

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            Oh, and according to the manual, it DOES have a digital tuner.

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              I imagine it would be even better if calibrated although that model may have suffered from some form of purple snakes?

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                Yeah, every TV's better calibrated - especially one that's half a decade old. It'll have drifted a bit. But the cost of calibrating it might not be worth it since it was a freebie.

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                  The old man may have made that up about the lack of digital just so he could get another one. So far it is a nice looking if heavy set. It shall be kept. Mainly for powerstone in bed...

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                    Originally posted by Lyris View Post
                    Yeah, that's what I use. If there are tough stains, I use a bit of warm water, and then one of those special textured cloths that avoid leaving streaks.

                    With that said, I don't think there's any way to clean some gloss black surfaces without scratching them. Panasonic this year made the REMOTES out of this stupid finish. This is my brand new ST50 remote after being used for about 5 minutes:

                    I guess it's good they got the displays so outstandingly good this year, I can forgive them for the remote design snafu:
                    thinking of getting the panny st50 myself this week. is it still the case with plasmas that you shouldnt game with them until you have used the set for more than 100hrs? how much did you pay if you dont mind me asking?

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                      thinking of getting the panny st50 myself this week. is it still the case with plasmas that you shouldnt game with them until you have used the set for more than 100hrs? how much did you pay if you dont mind me asking?
                      I paid 999.95 for the 50" ST50 with a free BD player at Richer Sounds. Outstanding service, they swapped out the first panel with a stuck pixel.

                      Shop TV, Hi-Fi, home cinema and more at Richer Sounds. We offer expert advice and lowest prices guaranteed. Visit us in store or shop online now.


                      The BD player can be region hacked (for BD and DVD) for a small fee (PM me for the hookup). The quality of the BD player is perfect. The offer for the free player runs out the end of this month.

                      My review (of the player): http://forums.hdtvtest.co.uk/index.php?topic=7206.0

                      It's a good idea to baby them for the first 100 hours, when they are most suceptible to stubborn retention (or possibly even permanent burn).

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                        Originally posted by Lyris View Post

                        The BD player can be region hacked (for BD and DVD) for a small fee (PM me for the hookup). The quality of the BD player is perfect. The offer for the free player runs out the end of this month.

                        My review (of the player): http://forums.hdtvtest.co.uk/index.php?topic=7206.0

                        It's a good idea to baby them for the first 100 hours, when they are most suceptible to stubborn retention (or possibly even permanent burn).
                        nice review of the BD player there

                        I decided to take the plunge today - got Panasonic Store to do some matching of offers, and they let me upgrade the now matched-free blu ray player to the 220 (so it has wifi) for ?40. All in it cost ?1025 for the 42ST50, wifi BD player, 2 pairs 3D glasses and 5 year warranty. Not a bad deal i thought. the BD player is going in the bedroom so the wifi was a useful extra

                        it arrives next week, but am going to take it easy on the gaming front for a while, dont want to take too many risks with it to start with.

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                          Originally posted by Lyris View Post
                          I paid 999.95 for the 50" ST50 with a free BD player at Richer Sounds. Outstanding service, they swapped out the first panel with a stuck pixel.

                          Shop TV, Hi-Fi, home cinema and more at Richer Sounds. We offer expert advice and lowest prices guaranteed. Visit us in store or shop online now.


                          The BD player can be region hacked (for BD and DVD) for a small fee (PM me for the hookup). The quality of the BD player is perfect. The offer for the free player runs out the end of this month.

                          My review (of the player): http://forums.hdtvtest.co.uk/index.php?topic=7206.0

                          It's a good idea to baby them for the first 100 hours, when they are most suceptible to stubborn retention (or possibly even permanent burn).
                          Damn, I've been gaming on VX300 like nobody's business!! Can't see any image retention though...

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                            I wouldn't worry, they are bullet proof compared with the Vieras.

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                              Scratched screen

                              Bloody kids!

                              My 2 year old (nearly 3 so he knows he was being naughty) has scratched my 46" Samsung LCD TV. He did it with a toy knife from his kitchen set. It's about 8cm long from the middle to the bottom of the screen.

                              We can't afford to buy a new one at the moment because we're moving house and have just set on our first mortgage.

                              It's only a couple of years old, the Missus can't really see it but I can see it on white HD images. It stairs as me saying "you know I'm here and there's nothing you can do about it" and I can't enjoy using it anymore.

                              Any advice on shifting it? It's quite deep and you can feel it when you run your finger across it.

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                                You could try polishing it, but nothing will return it to its original state. With kids around, I'd wall-mount your next screen where they can't reach.

                                If it makes you feel any better, someone managed to get blue ball point marker on my 123" projection screen. Not a problem, we'll just ship another in from the US. Only about $1000 all in, pocket change, right?

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