LCD/Plasma/CRT/DLP - questions

[Shozuki]

I mean tbh, my old stuff will remain on my old 28" Sony - but im thinking Wii - Zelda at its best!

[EvilBoris]

SD pretty much looks the same here - colourful, vivid and a lot better than what I was used to in terms of pixelisation.

The Television channel looks wonderful on your last picture, but don't you still find the sharp lines in 480p inferior to 480i RGB on a CRT?

Games are certainly playable now, and the lack of scanlines and clarity of the image on 480p is great, but there's a sharpness about that progressive scan resolution (evident on that Katamari shot) which would be lessened on moving to my 28" 4:3. That's partly why I've kept it, because of the upscale scenario.

I actually always prefered the 480p to 480i on my CRT set, although the edges may be jaggier, the overall clarity of the image is better. I used to find after having 480p on my Xbox for a while that seeing my friends Tvs in 480i looked blurry by comparison.

All of those shots are just bog standard RGB 480i on my Tv.

[Concept]

I'll try and find the exact review, but it's been said Twilight Princess looks inferior to Resident Evil 4 technically, and that it suffers the same problem current gen 480p games do. You'd have thought Nintendo would use the Wii to make liberal use of AA and try and get rid of some of the near distant jagged lines considering the console is said to be twice as powerful as the 'Cube.

[Lyris]

Can the Wii do anti-aliasing without taking much of a performance hit?

[Shozuki]

I think im gonna take the plunge on the WLT68 sooner then I expected!

[EvilBoris]

I'll try and find the exact review, but it's been said Twilight Princess looks inferior to Resident Evil 4 technically, and that it suffers the same problem current gen 480p games do. You'd have thought Nintendo would use the Wii to make liberal use of AA and try and get rid of some of the near distant jagged lines considering the console is said to be twice as powerful as the 'Cube.

Ironically Resident Evil 4 often looked like Arse in 480p, I always had the feeling that a fair few Gamecube games actually had textures designed to display better on an interlaced image.

Isn't there only so far you can improve the image anyway by adding AA? Nintendo may have decided that the difference is marginal for such a large performance hit.

Also peoples expectations of what games look like has been risen by the HD goodness of the 360, I find it quite painful to play 480p games now, let alone 480p games that don't come close in terms of visual fidelity to that of the next gen.

[Concept]

Can the Wii do anti-aliasing without taking much of a performance hit?

You would have hoped so. Fair enough if it's only as powerful as the GC (even though it's been mentioned it's twice as powerful). However, I thought AA would have been a priority for Nintendo considering 16:9 (HDTV) screens are only going to become more popular over the years.

[Concept]

Ironically Resident Evil 4 often looked like Arse in 480p, I always had the feeling that a fair few Gamecube games actually had textures designed to display better on an interlaced image.

Aye, that was because 16:9 wasn't true 16:9, it was zoomed. RE4 on a CRT looks outstanding and ahead of its time so it doesn't surprise me when I read Twilight Princess doesn't quite match it.

[Concept]

I think im gonna take the plunge on the WLT68 sooner then I expected!

Enjoy.

I'm happy with what I've got due to the colour system, processing, options and 1:1 pixel mapping over VGA. By all accounts the Toshibas (WLT66/68 ) are said to be a very good systems (3 HDMI ports is nothing to be sniffed at).

[Spatial]

Put it this way, I don't have a problem with the level of AA in Twilight Princess - too me it's on a par with RE4 so far and that was more than playable.

But then this could be because I'm using composite and can't see past the end of Link's nose

[Concept]

Are you playing on a HDTV using composite? How pixelated?

I hadn't considered the component situation but was thinking of buckling and getting a Wii for Christmas. Let's hope there's cable supply for the European launch.

[Spatial]

Yep and it looks downright nasty. I'll see if I can grab some photo's tommorow.

[Lyris]

Pixellated? I wish - BLURRY more like

(No I don't have my Wii just yet...)

[andrewfee]

andrew any chance I can ask a MASSIVE favour? any chance you could take a pic of either PS2 or GC in 480p?

I ask cos i've found 480p horrible on LCD TV's in the past and am curious to see what the WLT68 is like with it!

Thanks in advance!

Didn't turn out quite as well as the Gears pic, but here's a couple of 480p games from my gamecube via component:

PSO:


Metroid Prime:


These were just using the same settings as my 360, I didn't bother to adjust them at all. They appear sharper than the photos, and aliasing isn't nearly as apparent.


And a slightly dark one of Kameo I forgot to post earlier:

[Shozuki]

looks ace! thanks

must say they look much better the the 480p ive become used to!

thanks again!