Thinking about it, if what we're seeing is still the Empire, then their rebellion was rubbish and the celebrations in RotJ severely premature. Thirty years later and they're still chasing TIE Fighters. Kind of sucks the point out of the first three movies. I guess it's possible that the remains of the Empire was taken over by nice democratic governments and the stormtroopers seen are the good guys (which would fit with one of the main characters being one of them) but then the Falcon is shooting up TIE Fighters...
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There is that whole thing about revolution and what it means. Only a matter of time before the pigs turn into the farmers.Comment
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Didn't the empire simply carry on running as normal in the books after the 2nd Death Star was destroyed? By one of the admirals I think. The rebels destroyed the 2nd Death Star yes, but not the fleet or armies, so was kind of a hollow victory in the end.Comment
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They killed the emperor as well...Comment
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And his powerful second in command who liked to choke people.
But yeah, you could easily make a case for the Empire continuing. But it would be a rubbish thing to do to the three main movies the world loves by rendering the stories pointless.Comment
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The emperor and vader died yes but the admiral who picked the pieces was just as bad if not worse. Kind of like a defeated hitler and replaced with Stalin kind of deal.Originally posted by Darwock View Post
Maybe they won't go with that kind of story line but I'm just wondering what actually happens to the empires armies and navy considering how big it would of been, it wouldn't of just poofed out of existence, and would have to be explained.Last edited by fishbowlhead; 30-11-2014, 09:37.Comment
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George Lucas Special Edition Trailer...
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I believe the sith bad guy is Gwendoline Christie from game of thronesComment
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I hope we don't have loads. We don't need them.Comment
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Am I the only one avoiding watching the teaser trailer?!Comment
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Brilliant ! (the Lucas edition I mean)Comment
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The LEGO version is cool too!!Comment
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Had a thought earlier that may change how I perceive the Star Wars movies, unless I'm missing something (which is possible). Here it is: Luke's usefulness ended in ANH and the SW universe doesn't need Jedi and, really, should be unlikely to have any after RotJ.
Luke saved Leia and blew up the first Death Star. Nobody else seemed to be doing this so this makes him a major player in that story, obviously. Did he use the force to make that shot? Well he knew next to nothing about the force at that point but let's give him the benefit of the doubt and say he did.
But then? Nothing.
The rebel fleet organised the knocking out of the shield generator for the second Death Star and its destruction. Unlike the rescue of Leia, if Han and Lando hadn't done these things someone else would have - they had an army. What did Luke contribute? He went and had a chat with the Emperor while fighting his dad. It achieved nothing because the Death Star being blown up would have killed them anyway. You could make a case that he was a distraction but the Emperor seemed so cocky about the Death Star being operational that he wasn't really aware anyway. And even if you bought that role, it means the single Jedi in the universe's role is - oh look, it's the Good Year blimp! So Luke's contribution as a Jedi is negligible. What was all the training for? Not a thing.
So then after RotJ. Well we know in ANH that both the Empire and regular smugglers are dismissive of the force as ancient religious nonsense. Lucas in his infinite wisdom kind of messed that up in the prequels by having armies of magic Jedi in the lifetime of these same people but we'll take the main good movies as primary canon here because they happen after the prequels chronologically. So by Luke's day, nobody really believes in the force. And we know the force played no significant role in the destruction of the second Death Star, where the Emperor was killed. The mission was orchestrated and carried out by non-force normal people.
So at the end of RotJ, who is going to care about the force? Just one person: Luke Skywalker. And if he had any sense, he would stay well away from it. Why? Because from what he was told, the reason his dad turned to the dark side is because Ben wasn't good enough a teacher. Ben was fully trained. Luke never was. What hope does he stand of training a Jedi successfully without risking them turn to the dark side? And why even do it? There were no Sith. The only real way you'd end up with an all-powerful force-wielding enemy is by training someone and having them turn to the dark side. So not much good came from Jedi in the main movies (backed up by the prequels if you want to consider those) and serious risk from even trying.
To conclude: Luke didn't bring down the Empire and no good would come from encouraging anyone to use the force post-RotJ.Comment
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I think the new movie addresses these points. The Force is effectively hidden in the universe and the only one who has a connection to it is Luke. There might be inquisitors lurking around but the force is hidden and will Awaken in this movie.
The Sith from the teaser is 'supposedly' Adam Driver.Originally posted by RobRoy View Post
How do I do spoiler tags on here? There's no control panel in the text editor...Last edited by danholo; 30-11-2014, 19:36.Comment
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