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[Roddie]

Did anyone else see the second F2 race? Crazy amount of red flags and safety car periods and a nasty accident where Henry Surtees was hit on the head by a flying wheel. He was immediately knocked unconscious and flown to hospital, but has died from the injury.

[Alastair]

Sad news indeed.

[Richard.John]

One of those freak moments as another millisecond here or there and it would have missed him. Amazing that we haven't lost an F1 driver to such in recent years. A marshall lost his life a few years ago in a similar incident, if my memory can be relied upon.

[Flabio]

F1 cars have wheel tethers after the Senna accident. Although they don't work 100% of the time, they do take a lot of the kinetic energy out of the wheels even if they do detach.

[Dazzyman]

RIP Surtees

It seems to happen every few years still. Theirs been a couple of marshells killed over it in last decade think last one was Melbourne in 2001. If they detach their lethal.

[Bort]

F1 - Hungarian Grand Prix

Budapest, 24-26 July 2009
Saturday 25 July
Qualifying: 1400 (1300 BST)
BBC coverage (UK): 1210-1415, BBC One/Red Button/5 Live sports extra/online

Sunday 26 July
Race: 1400 (1300 BST)
BBC coverage (UK): 1210-1500, BBC One/Red Button/5 Live/online.



MOTO GP - DONINGTON - GREAT BRITAIN
Saturday 25 July
Qualifying
1250-1600, BBC Red Button/online (Freeview channel 302)
MotoGP Qualifying 13:55-14:55

Sunday 26 July
125 and 250cc race
1220-1435, BBC Red Button/online (Freeview channel 301)

Race
1500-1630, BBC One/online

[ChrisF]

Crikey. Hoping Massa is ok!

[PeteJ]

Bloody hell, that replay was quite scary. Can't believe two freak accidents have happened in motorsports within a week. This one could have so easily have been fatal, Massa was lucky in a way. I don't understand how the bar was still flying down the track when it came off the Brawn on a different part of the circuit (and around a corner?).

Very strange session all in all, most bizzare I've ever seen. Have the times been released yet?

[Paulos G]

Very strange session indeed. So we think Alonso's on pole and Vettel's second?

[Flabio]

My guess is that it's come off Bazza's car, then someone else has caught it under a wheel and flipped it into the air.

Massa seems to have been very lucky there.

And then the timing displays all died at the end, so we completely missed the pole lap. Did like Alonso asking each person in parc fermé what their time was, and Button not realising he was on camera saying '21.5? ****ing hell!'

[NW2013]

Absolutely farcical that they don't know who set the fastest time. Would you trust the accuracy of the times after the computer failed? I know I wouldn't. Hope Vettel wins tomorrow.

[Flabio]

I don't think it's so much the timing gear failing as it was the pit lane displays. There'd be redundant backup in the timing itself (the drivers themselves knew their own times for example, it flashes up on the steering wheel, and that kit is FIA supplied).

[Paulos G]

Alonso, Vettel, Webber, Hamilton, Rosberg, Kovalainen, Raikkonen, Button, Nakajima, Massa.

[PeteJ]

1. Alonso Renault (B) 1:21.313 1:20.826 1:21.569
2. Vettel Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:21.178 1:20.604 1:21.607
3. Webber Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:20.964 1:20.358 1:21.741
4. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:20.842 1:20.465 1:21.839
5. Rosberg Williams-Toyota (B) 1:20.793 1:20.862 1:21.890
6. Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:21.659 1:20.807 1:22.095
7. Raikkonen Ferrari (B) 1:21.500 1:20.647 1:22.468
8. Button Brawn-Mercedes (B) 1:21.471 1:20.707 1:22.511
9. Nakajima Williams-Toyota (B) 1:21.407 1:20.570 1:22.835
10. Massa Ferrari (B) 1:21.420 1:20.823
11. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:21.571 1:21.002
12. Trulli Toyota (B) 1:21.416 1:21.082
13. Barrichello Brawn-Mercedes (B) 1:21.558 1:21.222
14. Glock Toyota (B) 1:21.584 1:21.242
15. Piquet Renault (B) 1:21.278 1:21.389
16. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber (B) 1:21.738
17. Fisichella Force India-Mercedes (B) 1:21.807
18. Sutil Force India-Mercedes (B) 1:21.868
19. Kubica BMW-Sauber (B) 1:21.901
20. Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:22.359

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77247

All times unofficial though.

[NW2013]

Hamilton may get himself to the front with the ridiculous KERS system. That'll put the cat among the pigeons.

Saw a good graphic on the MotoGP qualy where a chequered flag appears at the end of the session when it's obvious they won't get another lap. Would help considering how useless Legard is. Today during the qualy he was busy slagging Piquet off when it was obvious he was just about to set a decent (for him) lap.