Osama Bin Laden killed

[Howiee]

The walking on water bit always seemed a bit suspect to me

If He was God, why not?

[Charlie]

Howiee, what do you make of Epicurus' riddle or the Epicurean paradox? Being religiously inclined, you've probably come across it at some point in your life. If not, here it is:

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?

I should point out this isn't a loaded post designed to pour scorn over anyones belief in God. People can believe in whatever they like as far as I'm concerned, but I am very interested to know what you make of the ancient Greek philosopher's so-called riddle because the questions it poses are as valid today as they ever were.

[Howiee]

Anyone seen this Clive Owen movie? - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0398017/ Any good?

I just got that. Very funny. I'm saying nothing now unless asked.

[Neon Ignition]

I'd offer a smaller amount of credibility to things like the Gospels if they were written by Jesus himself or even within his lifetime but it's like the people who to this day still firmly believe in the words of Saddam etc. It's not first hand information and is skewed to represent a preferred message. I think, people who accept the realities of the world around us and incorporate that into their belief system is fine but I always find it a little bizarre when people take a literal belief in a religions teachings. The church itself has shown in the last 20-30 years alone to have a large willingness to bend it's views and teachings just to maintain popularity.

It's like people who believe Noah's Ark is a true story. It's a story that promotes a God who sanctions genocide, suffering and incest. How could anyone take a literal belief in such a contradictory tale?

That said, I once had a debate with someone who was making the arguement the Earth might not be older than 200 years old because there wasn't anyone living that old to prove it

[Dogg Thang]

The world might only be several minutes old. We could have been awakened with all of our memories implanted and a world fabricated to provide the illusion of history.

[MartyG]

It's like people who believe Noah's Ark is a true story. It's a story that promotes a God who sanctions genocide, suffering and incest. How could anyone take a literal belief in such a contradictory tale?

There was a programme on the history channel (although why it wasn't on sci-fi I'm not certain) called Ancient Aliens a couple of weeks ago - people on there were claiming that Noah's adventure was proof that aliens have been causing natural disasters throughout Earth's history. Trufax.

And woah - tangent!

[Neon Ignition]

True, probably proof we're all over Bin Laden's death and ready for the next hard hitting issue

Let us put down the debate and rejoice in life's greatest leading light!

[Spatial]

[charlesr]

I had the misfortune to see a bit of the new (bbc 10pm) last night. It was quite disturbing to see people saying things like "It goes to show that if you mess with us, we'll hunt you down and kill you". What's wrong with the court of law people?

It's easy for me to sit here in my ivory tower and be all rational though - if my comrades had fallen I would probably also be all "killing's too good for 'em"

It doesn't take a lot for our species to revert back to survival of the fittest.

[charlesr]

Ah sorry I hadn't seen those two picture posts before posting that. Sorry for bringing it back on track

[MartyG]

I was quite surprised that Sarah Palin didn't get mentioned in the media for her remarks on Twitter ...

Show photo as warning to others seeking America's destruction. No pussy-footing around, no politicking, no drama;it's part of the mission

Yeah, stick his head on a pike and parade it in the gardens of the White House ...

[Dogg Thang]

Well that's exactly it Charles. That's why we have courts of law - so that we're not just lynching people on emotional responses. Not dragging people out into the streets and setting fire to them. Revenge killings just lead to more revenge. More violence. Brutalisation. So something like this, to me, is a real step backwards.

[charlesr]

Yeah, let's look to Israel and Palestine for what's really going to happen here next. Tit for tat to infinity.

[dvdx2]

That said, I once had a debate with someone who was making the arguement the Earth might not be older than 200 years old because there wasn't anyone living that old to prove it

I can understand and respect people having religious beliefs, and we all take meaning from things throughtout nature and nurture, but to come out with a statement like that is some seriously skewed (and a rather ignorant) unstanding of the natural world and how the planet has shaped and formed, to the world we live in.

Its actually FACT - that processes such as landscape erosion (such as the Grand Canyon, formation of rocks to creation mountainous regions, continent shift etc - have taken millions of years to come to fruition, to the way we visably see things today - if you dont agree with FACT, you are really only deluding yourself unfortunately....

[Spatial]

I was quite surprised that Sarah Palin didn't get mentioned in the media for her remarks on Twitter ...



Yeah, stick his head on a pike and parade it in the gardens of the White House ...

They probably don't bat an eye lid when she starts that sort of right wing lunacy because they're all used to it now. That sounds like par for the course for the arse gravy that she continues to pass off as some form of grasp on the big wide world around her.

But it scares the hell out of me that she's considered to be the next in line for the US Presidency. That woman's crazier than a bucket of frogs - Obama may not have lived up to the hype but at least he seems to be reasonably sensible.