UK Energy Costs

[Hirst]

I will get onto people who can't work for whatever reason another day but for the sake of simplicity here - ordinary people with ordinary jobs should be able to buy decent food, own a house if they want, pay all their utility bills without worrying, have some means of transport, holidays, hobbies, savings, leisure, a secure and pleasant retirement at the end. I'm not saying living in excess or wiping their backsides on tenners, but enough there to have a fulfilling and interesting life that was worth doing.

If they can't do all that, then the system needs changing. The year is 2022, not 1922. People shouldn't be sat around eating watery porridge and saving up for an annual go on a "What the Butler saw" machine, happy to exist for the sake of work alone. If they can't work a normal job and be rewarded with a full existence - and that does include some nice things - then what's the point? Might as well just wander the streets and eat bread crusts, it's less stress.

[Nu-Eclipse]

Don't talk that common sense around here, [MENTION=7652]Hirst[/MENTION]!

We've got to switch off our consoles and buy value foods. We're the problem, not f**k*ng greedy energy suppliers and sh1thouse Conservative politicians who are happy to see people struggle and suffer, dontcha know!!!

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/may/04/quit-netflix-wear-a-jumper-britons-face-barrage-of-patronising-tips-on-cutting-costs?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

[Anpanman]

I will get onto people who can't work for whatever reason another day but for the sake of simplicity here - ordinary people with ordinary jobs should be able to buy decent food, own a house if they want, pay all their utility bills without worrying, have some means of transport, holidays, hobbies, savings, leisure, a secure and pleasant retirement at the end. I'm not saying living in excess or wiping their backsides on tenners, but enough there to have a fulfilling and interesting life that was worth doing.

If they can't do all that, then the system needs changing. The year is 2022, not 1922. People shouldn't be sat around eating watery porridge and saving up for an annual go on a "What the Butler saw" machine, happy to exist for the sake of work alone. If they can't work a normal job and be rewarded with a full existence - and that does include some nice things - then what's the point? Might as well just wander the streets and eat bread crusts, it's less stress.

The issue for me is that successive governments have dropped the ball as things have been getting progressively worse since the 70's or 60's.

[Neon Ignition]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2022/may/09/boris-johnson-labour-keir-starmer-beer-election-results-uk-politics-live?page=with:block-6278f9be8f08a4369a8b3935#block-6278f9be8f08a4369a8b3935

No10 refuses to deny the October cap will rise by £900 as Scottish Power predicts

[fishbowlhead]

How about, no, just no.

[Nu-Eclipse]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...08a4369a8b3935
No10 refuses to deny the October cap will rise by £900 as Scottish Power predicts

Hey man, haven't you heard??? WE GOTTA PLAY OUR PARTS BY REMEMBERING TO SWITCH OFF OUR CONSOLES AND BUY SUPERMARKET VALUE BRANDS!!!!!

[Cassius_Smoke]

So two things are going to happen.
People are going to fail to pay the bills come Oct.
People will have so little money left, that no one can spend and the economy begins to collapse.

[fishbowlhead]

Stop moaning peasants and just take some money from your off shore trust fund thats in your wifes name.

[Neon Ignition]

I can't believe the tone of this thread. I mean, do none of you care about the sustainability of Pret a Manger anymore?

[charlesr]

When our ability to be sarcastic about this stuff fails, that's the point we rise up and revolution happens

[Nu-Eclipse]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...08a4369a8b3935
No10 refuses to deny the October cap will rise by £900 as Scottish Power predicts

OFGEM have all but confirmed it.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/may/24/energy-bills-likely-to-rise-by-800-in-october-says-ofgem-chief

[Asura]

OFGEM have all but confirmed it.

https://www.theguardian.com/business...ys-ofgem-chief

I'm sure the energy firms will make massive losses

Seriously we're at a point where we need to start eating their shareholders.

[Neon Ignition]

I know there's a balancing act involved but why isn't the energy cap frozen at a lower level?
I know some suppliers were going under but you also can't report record profits either, surely a meet in the middle cap would largely ride things out better than a windfall tax?

[Nu-Eclipse]

Seriously we're at a point where we need to start eating their shareholders.

Wouldn't want to waste my calories on them.

Old-school assassination would be better.

[Cassius_Smoke]

Unfortunately, they fail to remember that people don't have unlimited money. So all that will happen is that people will default on their bills, the energy companies will have to soak up the dept and then most will collapse.