UK X: Who Wants To Live Forever

[charlesr]

Low birthrate is UK’s top priority, Tory MP tells rightwing conference | Conservatives | The Guardian
The biggest crisis in the UK is apparently we aren't putting even more mouths at the table and through our dying childcare and health systems.

Too many young people are going to university!
Too many women aren't staying at home raising kids!

Female and want a successful career? You must have been brainwashed!



Roll on 2024 - The Tories don't exist anymore, this is just an Alt-Right threat through and through at this point

As mentioned in a previous thread, the low birthrate will probably bring down capitalist society (if AI doesn't get there first), which requires constantly a increasing population to provide "growth". I put growth in inverted commas because for any given product there's a certain amount of requirement and once it maxes out, the only way to provide growth for shareholder value is via an increased population, so it's not real growth.

Conversely, a decreasing population might save us from global warming. Screwed either way

[Asura]

When it comes down to it, so many of the UK's problems relate to its classist culture.

We bring up kids telling them if they don't try hard, they'll become a refuse collector or fast food worker, knowing full well in doing so that we're calling those people failures.

It's probably not untrue that we send too many kids to university; insofar as we pressure kids to go to university as there's the perception that they're unsuccessful if they don't. We don't value service workers and labourers. We don't celebrate engineers and builders. Hell, we barely celebrate doctors and nurses.

[Neon Ignition]

Afghan families in Yorkshire issued with eviction letters from Suella Braverman | Home Office | The Guardian
Suella Braverman is having her name personally signed on eviction letters to Afghan families living in Yorkshire after being repeatedly kicked out of their homes since escaping Kabul in 2021

Another example of why I can't square the Labour/Tories being the same stance. Labour are pretty much Centre of politics they've veered from the Left so hard. The Tories are just outright Alt-Right now and still veering closer to extremist with every passing day

[Dogg Thang]

Hell, we barely celebrate doctors and nurses.

They got their applause once. What more do they need?

[fishbowlhead]

They got their applause once. What more do they need?

More clapping? Pfffft, some people are just ungrateful.

[Protocol Penguin]

When it comes down to it, so many of the UK's problems relate to its classist culture.

We bring up kids telling them if they don't try hard, they'll become a refuse collector or fast food worker, knowing full well in doing so that we're calling those people failures.

It's probably not untrue that we send too many kids to university; insofar as we pressure kids to go to university as there's the perception that they're unsuccessful if they don't. We don't value service workers and labourers. We don't celebrate engineers and builders. Hell, we barely celebrate doctors and nurses.

FWIW, that’s basically the opposite of what my girlfriend thinks as a German who has lived here for a considerable amount of time. She doesn’t like how we don’t value education, politicians and media figures regularly bash graduates and call university a great social evil, and expressing knowledge is seen as socially acceptable (knowing and speaking other languages is seen as taboo by British people, for example). I think she has a point about the latent British anti-intellectualism TBH. Although classism is definitely part of that – in Britain, being poor and wanting to better yourself through education is just seen as wrongfully trying to get above your station. It doesn’t exactly help that higher education has been made extortionately expensive.

[Anpanman]

We bring up kids telling them if they don't try hard, they'll become a refuse collector or fast food worker, knowing full well in doing so that we're calling those people failures.

It's probably not untrue that we send too many kids to university; insofar as we pressure kids to go to university as there's the perception that they're unsuccessful if they don't. We don't value service workers and labourers. We don't celebrate engineers and builders. Hell, we barely celebrate doctors and nurses.

When I left school working on the bins was one of the jobs at the top of my list, good honest work and as a council worker a stable job with a good pension and union protection.

There is pressure to go to uni but it isn't for everyone, apprenticeships or just getting a job on the bins or a supermarket should be regarded as ok. In these industries if you like what you are doing there is probably the chance of promotion if you want to take on more responsibility.

[Asura]

– in Britain, being poor and wanting to better yourself through education is just seen as wrongfully trying to get above your station.

This is classism too, though. It goes both ways.

[Hirst]

One of the worst parts of British culture is the in-built respect and trust for people who are rich “old money” types, no matter how useless or nasty. They are automatically given a free pass for having completely backwards views because they couldn’t be expected to know better and after all they’re just a cheeky funny Bertie Wooster type! If they can speak with a plummy accent and drop a few bits of Latin in there, they’re automatically smart and worthy of our respect. Never mind the fact that receiving inherited wealth requires zero skill and that it is an absolute doddle for somebody rich to remain rich. Even if you’re thick, just get somebody else your dad recommended to manage it for you and live off the dividends. The fact that Boris Johnson ended up skint for a while despite his background should have rang alarm bells - nobody with that kind of background ever ends up skint.

[Asura]

One of the worst parts of British culture is the in-built respect and trust for people who are rich “old money” types, no matter how useless or nasty. They are automatically given a free pass for having completely backwards views because they couldn’t be expected to know better and after all they’re just a cheeky funny Bertie Wooster type! If they can speak with a plummy accent and drop a few bits of Latin in there, they’re automatically smart and worthy of our respect. Never mind the fact that receiving inherited wealth requires zero skill and that it is an absolute doddle for somebody rich to remain rich. Even if you’re thick, just get somebody else your dad recommended to manage it for you and live off the dividends. The fact that Boris Johnson ended up skint for a while despite his background should have rang alarm bells - nobody with that kind of background ever ends up skint.

Johnson was never skint, and still isn't. He just paid for his new house in cash for over 3 million. It was all part of the grift.

[Protocol Penguin]

This is classism too, though. It goes both ways.

Well, the “don’t go above your station” classism is way more common than the one you described. I was discouraged from taking post-16 education while at secondary school, was treated badly by some students and staff at a Russell group university because I’d come from a state school/FE college, my degree still gets insults for being in a classical subject. The whole system is based around discouraging eduction, and it’s telling that the main media narrative about higher education is that it’s bad (as lectured to us by hypocritical hacks and politicians who coincidentally all went to Oxbridge).

[Hirst]

It works both ways I think. There were a bunch of jobs at my place where they went through a job evaluation process and made the replacement posts require the applicant be educated to “degree level”. One of the team didn’t have a degree, but he’d been doing the job for about 20 years and clearly knew what he was doing - ultimately got forced into early retirement against his will. On the other hand, people with degrees in subjects that had nothing to do with the work were fine. There are a few jobs that require a specific degree due to the risks of the job and that makes sense, but I think it’s nuts that some employers will require a degree for a job where there’s no statutory requirement and won’t count experience instead.

[fishbowlhead]

Wtf is that grade A moron Truss doing in Taiwan poking the Chinese bear? Go back to your hole you useless t***.

[Neon Ignition]

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[Neon Ignition]

Prince Harry and Meghan in near catastrophic car chase with paparazzi, spokesperson says | Prince Harry | The Guardian
I feel this is massively going to blow up in their face

According to reports, the couple originally left the award ceremony in an SUV, and were followed by photographers. Aided by police officers assisting their private security detail, the couple went to a police station about 14 blocks away, AP reported.
They spent several minutes there waiting for the situation to de-escalate and, once it was safe, left in a yellow taxi cab, according to a law enforcement official, who was speaking on condition of anonymity.

That is a long way from a scenario involving near catastrophe. The 2hr claim felt off from the beginning given the location. It really is time for them to do as they claim they wanted and sod off.