Liverpool 2010/11 Season Thread

[Nu-Eclipse]

I think think some 'fans' are deluded. WE JUST LOST AT HOME TO WIGAN FFS!

Is that not a poor result? Does that not make you think what the hell is going on? I think a lot of fans were never expexcting us to win the league, or maybe just maybe not quite make top 4 knowing there was spurs in the mix as well. However, we're no better than mid table. Scored not many more goals than hodgson's west brom, and have a shocking, shocking home record.

I never once said that it wasn't a poor result, nor did I say that our lack of goals wasn't a problem this season. But I honestly do believe that we have made progress, even if it is only fitful. Our league performances have deserved more than 7th in the table on the whole. I'm sorry, but they have.

Get a grip? You tool.

Nice.

Sorry, my bad. Let's be like Chelsea and have a revolving door of managers with no foundation to try and build anything, then.

Prat.

[Supergoal]

Prat.

Nice

[Adrock]

Kenny handled the whole evra incident brilliantly as well...........

He backed his player to the hilt, just like Ferguson did with Schmeichel when he was accused by Ian Wright. I'd rather not get bogged with the Suarez affair but if it was in a court the accusations would never have stood due to lack of witnesses, evidence and both Suarez and Evra being inconsistent with their stories.

Dalglish's reaction was exactly how I'd expect a manager to react in supporting his players and team, especially against your fiercest rivals. As I pointed out earlier, when Rooney got itchy feet Torres was being linked with United and Hodgson said nothing but niceties about the whole thing.

[nakamura]

. Our league performances have deserved more than 7th in the table on the whole. I'm sorry, but they have.

Don't agree for a second there. You are about where you deserve, mid table. There are teams like Swansea that often play more dynamic football, Newcastle that do deserve to be above you, Norwich that have also fought on weak resources and played some stunning stuff at time.

[Nu-Eclipse]

Don't agree for a second there. You are about where you deserve, mid table. There are teams like Swansea that often play more dynamic football, Newcastle that do deserve to be above you, Norwich that have also fought on weak resources and played some stunning stuff at time.

Sorry, we've dominated most of the league games we've played this season, with a few exceptions (Spurs, Utd, Bolton & City away, for example). It's the scoring side of it that has let us down.

If half of our draws were turned into wins, we'd comfortably be top-four.

[Stoppy2000]

Sorry, we've dominated most of the league games we've played this season, with a few exceptions (Spurs, Utd, Bolton & City away, for example). It's the scoring side of it that has let us down.

If half of our draws were turned into wins, we'd comfortably be top-four.

If spurs losses had been wins then we'd be top. Yawn. Maybe next season?

[Adrock]

Its no wonder most threads about football on this forum see very sporadic activity when grown up adult conversation is difficult for quite a few people on here. Lets cut out the needless name calling and baiting please, it makes all involved come across as 13 year old internet heroes.

[Nu-Eclipse]

Its no wonder most threads about football on this forum see very sporadic activity when grown up adult conversation is difficult for quite a few people on here. Lets cut out the needless name calling and baiting please, it makes all involved come across as 13 year old internet heroes.

Agreed.

Just find it amazing that fans of other teams want to come on here and do nothing more than blatantly troll.

[nakamura]

Perhaps if you learned to engage in a conversation Nu-Eclipes, people wouldn't feel the need to troll you. You accused me of trolling when I simply wasn't. I find the whole thing fascinating, mainly down to Kenny being such an icon at he club but frankly I think he is hopeless. Was interested on hearing opinions from fans of the club.

To reiterate, I support no team at all. So when I mentioned the worthless nature of the Carling Cup I had no double standard or hidden agenda regarding that.

[Nu-Eclipse]

Perhaps if you learned to engage in a conversation Nu-Eclipes, people wouldn't feel the need to troll you.

Thanks, but it's Nu-Eclipse.

And again, you can't tell me a damn thing about learning to engage in conversation when you consider it okay to throw unwarranted insults in the first place. Try practicing what you preach.

[hudson]

C'mon guys, let's hug it out.

Just ignore anything that seems to be baiting to you.

[Shozuki]

Well I support Arsenal. Will say though I think Liverpool have played pretty well this season, they just cant finish chances. For me though that needs to blamed on Dalglish. ?110M spent without much quality bar Suarez (even if I do massively dislike the way he conducts himself). But anyway, maybe a decent summer of signings and you'll be up there next season, I don't think you lot are too far away.

[Adrock]

That depends on who you believe is responsible for the signings. I would say though, regardless of who was signed they all definitely have the quality to be beating QPR and Wigan so its not just the signings for those two defeats. The lack of consistency throughout the season could be laid at lack of depth in the squad though.

As for ?100m or ?110m depending on whose figures you go by is terribly misleading. In that they have recouped something like ?70m, so when you look at it subjectively its fair to say a massive outlay has definitely not been the case. As for the team's starting point.

Joe Cole, Paul Konchesky, Milan Jovanovic, Christian Poulsen and Meireles were all plays who were in and about the first team and match day squad. To replace all of those and Torres, Babel, Insua and Aquilani (who again were there or there abouts) will take a lot more money and time than ?30mil net spend and 1 1/2 seasons.

This is exactly why Dalglish needs to be given one more season. With sufficient investment in the squad in the Summer the club would then be right to expect to seriously challenge for Champions League qualification if not expect it outright.

[prinnysquad]

I'm always interested on how old boys are doing. I see Henderson has come in for some grief recently. Back in June I posted this:

I'll take a conservative view and say that he's not worth anywhere near 20 million. Yet. He has the potential to be a player of that pricetag. You're paying for the potential. I would be very surprised if he does anything outstanding for Liverpool next season, he will continue to develop nicely though. He's not as dynamic or complete as Michael Bridges was when we sold him, and he doesn't run a game. He's no Gerrard, not even close. At first, he'll appear to put in a lot of graft, yet do nothing tangible.

He's hit something like 70-odd appearances in the first team in a very average side and frequently shone, but he had a mid-season trough recently where he looked totally ineffectual. The good news to come out of that run was that he never stopped trying, so he's got a decent temperament (although the extent to which that level of drive was to do with playing for his hometown team is to be seen).

He's a bit of an enigma. He does seem to have a sound footballing brain, and a decent level of technical ability. He sees himself as central midfield, but he's better drifting onto the right flank. He can put in a very decent cross. He has a decent shot. He's a box-to-box player. He's a great player for Eng U21s. Yet at other times he drifts out of the game, over-relies on simple passes and runs around like a headless chicken. Sometimes he huffs and puffs in a match yet doesn't seem to apply it to create end product. He simply doesn't shoot enough, or tackle. He's not a fast winger.

That sounds terrible. He's not. Just be prepared for some shockingly un-20-million-esque performances. If Liverpool sort out his playing position, and train him up there, then he could be excellent. The Liverpool staff seem to think so. At the moment he's been shoved into various positions and roles for Sunlun and England, and once he gets settled and stops trying to do everything averagely, then he could flourish.

I'm not sure how accurate this has turned out to be?? From here, it seems like the price-tag is a bit of a millstone and he's not got the confidence to try things that change a match. He's been part of a team of newbies and injury-replacements, without much time to seriously bed down. Seems like he's having another trough (although he finished last season strongly). Any thoughts chaps?

[Stoppy2000]

Henderson seems like a bit of a 6/10 machine to me. He's never bad enough to be noticeable but never good enough to grab the headlines. Seems like the fee was about 8m too much. Same could be said of Downing.