England Team Thread

[nakamura]

You are just the same now, mediocre.

That said I don't think he did a great job there, not at all, but neither is Kenny, not at the moment.
People have short memories though, only focusing on the Liverpool job he did. Hodgson has always been a good quality manager, not exceptional but how many are?
He has done extremely well and West Brom this season, in fact they are 3 behind Liverpool having spent a lot less money. They can also play some nice stuff. He also did a great job taking Fulham to the UEFA final. Yes cups are a lotterly but Fulham came from behind in a fair few ties to go on to win, a never say die attitude perhaps which is something the England lads could use.

[MonkeyJuggleDX]

Roy Hodgson
* 8 league Titles
* Took Switzerland to THIRD in the world FIFA rankings
* Also took them to their first major champs since 66 in 94.
* Only lost 2 major ints with UAE and 4 with Finland
* Champs League final with Inter
* One of only 3 out of 18 managers to not be sacked by Moratti at Inter (the other 2 are Mourinho and Leonardo )
* 7th in PL with Fulham
* Europa League Final with Fulham beating Juventus, Shakhtar and Wolfsburg on the way
* WBAs highest ever PL finish this year

Harry Redknapp
* 4th in Premier League once
* Won FA cup once

[Nu-Eclipse]

Roy Hodgson
* 8 league Titles (All in Scandinavian Football)
* Took Switzerland to THIRD in the world FIFA rankings
* Also took them to their first major champs since 66 in 94.
* Only lost 2 major ints with UAE and 4 with Finland
* UEFA Cup final with Inter
* One of only 3 out of 18 managers to not be sacked by Moratti at Inter (the other 2 are Mourinho and Leonardo )
* 7th in PL with Fulham
* Europa League Final with Fulham beating Juventus, Shakhtar and Wolfsburg on the way
* WBAs highest ever PL finish this year

Corrected.

[sj33]

Surely the problems experienced by Liverpool in the latter days of the Benitez era, during the Hodgson era, and continue to experience under Dalglish suggest that simply blaming the manager would be an oversimplification though? Not saying Hodgson's time at Liverpool wasn't bad for all concerned, nor that Hodgson is somehow immune from blame, but it would seem that there are more fundamental problems at Anfield.

[Ginger Tosser]

Roy Hodgson
* 8 league Titles
* Took Switzerland to THIRD in the world FIFA rankings
* Also took them to their first major champs since 66 in 94.
* Only lost 2 major ints with UAE and 4 with Finland
* UEFA Cup final with Inter
* One of only 3 out of 18 managers to not be sacked by Moratti at Inter (the other 2 are Mourinho and Leonardo )
* 7th in PL with Fulham
* Europa League Final with Fulham beating Juventus, Shakhtar and Wolfsburg on the way
* WBAs highest ever PL finish this year
* Clubs Bankrupted 0

Harry Redknapp
* 4th in Premier League once
* Won FA cup once
* Clubs Bankrupted 3

Adjusted!

[nakamura]

The fact that Hodgson won titles in scandinavia is irrelvent. When he took over at Halmstad they were widely tipped for relegation, instead they won the league. Similar thing with Malmo, they regard his reign as one of the best ever in their history.

For me, fair play to him for managing clubs outside of England and doing a good job in a lot of cases. He has also done good work here. I think he has had a decent career as a manager overall and why not give him a shot for England.

[mr_sockochris]

As long as he keeps Paul Konchesky away from the England team i'm sure he'll do a decent job

[parkinho]

Sound appointment, his international experience will stand him in good stead. I read that today's headline in that rag known as the Sun poked fun at Hodgson's speech - what a set of wankers.

[Nu-Eclipse]

The fact that Hodgson won titles in scandinavia is irrelvent. When he took over at Halmstad they were widely tipped for relegation, instead they won the league. Similar thing with Malmo, they regard his reign as one of the best ever in their history.

For me, fair play to him for managing clubs outside of England and doing a good job in a lot of cases. He has also done good work here. I think he has had a decent career as a manager overall and why not give him a shot for England.

It's perfectly relevant.

I'm sorry, but please don't try to make out that winning third-rate league titles in Sweden & Denmark are major, forefront-of-the-game achievements. They are not. They're just not. He did nothing of note at Inter, nearly took Blackburn down (when they were one of the better sides in England and had Walker's money) and was poor at Liverpool.

He's an average manager. Nothing less (perhaps), but nothing more.

[nakamura]

What does the quality of the league have to do with anything? He had the same calibre of player of that league, it wasn't like he had a crap load of top level players to win that league with.

Next you will be saying that Brian McDermott hasn't done a better job than Kenny this season.

[PaTaito]

He didnt manage liverpool very well...but saying that even kenny is struggling lately.

I just think it would have been a more positive move if the clowns in charge would have at least made an official move for redknapp when the iron was hot. He may have turned it down, but at least people would be over it by now and the hodgeson thing would seem a little sweeter right now. As it stands a lot of people will just not be able to quickly get past the redknapp thing, and its a shame because every time roy has failure, and this is england we are talking about, people will take the attitude of "what if arry was in charge".

Just poorly handled by these silver spoon pillocks, that should stick to cricket and afternoon tea.

Roy Hodgson * 8 league Titles * Took Switzerland to THIRD in the world FIFA rankings * Also took them to their first major champs since 66 in 94. * Only lost 2 major ints with UAE and 4 with Finland * Champs League final with Inter * One of only 3 out of 18 managers to not be sacked by Moratti at Inter (the other 2 are Mourinho and Leonardo ) * 7th in PL with Fulham * Europa League Final with Fulham beating Juventus, Shakhtar and Wolfsburg on the way * WBAs highest ever PL finish this year Harry Redknapp * 4th in Premier League once * Won FA cup once

Yes but even Steve Mcclaren won a title with FC TWENTE...and was runner up in the europa league. Also won league cup in 2003/4 with boro.

Just saying like.

Its not so much about the manager on paper, as capello proves, but the realisation that harry clearly had the kind of swagger and man management skill to get these england players doing something on the pitch...i truly believe that had harry failed, there would have been absolutely zero chance.

Geuss we'll never know.

[nakamura]

Why go for a manager you don't want just to satisfy public opinion? That is plain stupid.

For the record I don't think McClaren is a terrible manager like some seem do. He has done a few good jobs and a few less than stellar jobs, it happens. There are so many variables when managing a football team, just look at Chelsea.

[PaTaito]

The only possible reason for them not wanting harry in my eyes was the price...and that is no excuse whatsoever.

Especially given the ****e they write on the official website regarding their organisation:
The FA's Management Team, working together with The FA Board, Council and staff, aims to deliver an effective and professional organisation for the greater good of English football.

http://www.thefa.com/~/link.aspx?_id=8F4D7A043FA9415D9C5440E55C64C1A8&_z= z

I mean its a joke, it really is.

Also the bigger underlying problem with what you wrote is the possibility that they actually thought roy was a better option from the start, and never wanted harry...i dont believe this to be the case, but still.

Why go for a manager you don't want just to satisfy public opinion? That is plain stupid. For the record I don't think McClaren is a terrible manager like some seem do. He has done a few good jobs and a few less than stellar jobs, it happens. There are so many variables when managing a football team, just look at Chelsea.

[nakamura]

I just think people seem to think that Harry is the be all and end all when he isn't. Overall I do like him, good manager but he has spent wildly wherever he has gone.

To me Harry just seems so popular because he the media want him to be.

[sj33]

I'm unconvinced that the FA went for him purely because he was the cheap option, to be honest. It's possible, but Roy does fit the bill in a lot of ways.

Obviously vastly experienced, has a good record at lifting mediocre teams (should be ideal for England then), has international experience including at major competitions, was a UEFA scout for 16 years and thus extremely familiar with most of Europe's lesser-known players.

Give the guy a chance. We don't know that Redknapp would necessarily have been a better choice. And quite frankly, given everyone and their goat was being xenophobia and insisting on an English manager (a foreign manager wouldn't have the desire? Really?) and thus already limiting their selections, Hodgson is as experienced as they come.