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I was a bit disappointed with Naomi's accent too. Actually the accent is a small thing but it's a symptom of a slightly bigger issue with me - the watering down of the character in general. Her artwork in MGS1 is very distinctive, she has the accent and history that builds her personality and background - the British Indian (I think), she even makes reference to her skin colour. In MGS4, she's a generic, FF: Spirits Within-like American female. Same with Mei-Ling to a large extent. Even Meryl, who hadn't got the accent to lose, has lost a huge amount of her sassiness and power.
Watered down characters.
And I can't remember where the daughter thing came from either.Comment
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Meryl being Campbell's daughter was revealed if you got the Otacon ending in MGS1. He doesn't tell you if Meryl actually survives.Comment
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Ah okay. I don't remember that at all. Got to love Kojima and his putting bits right at the end that change the story for no particular reason.Comment
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Clearly 'no place for Hideo'
I jus completed it last weekend, and im sad now cos i dont have it to look forward to playing when i get home from work. Sigh.............
Great game though, im totally baffled by the story, even though ive played all the series lol....... MGS2 is still my fave, with this being a very close second!
Ive got some many questions.......... sigh..........
I only jus figured out that when you start the game and them adverts come on you can cycle through the channel like a tv set lol......... i think i must be the only one who didnt know this till i accidentaly moved the annalogue stick.
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No, I didn't know about that either until people here were talking about it. Went back to watch them after though.Comment
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I don't like where they took Naomi's character either (she's completely inconsistent - particularly when she's all over Vamp at the end), though I have to disagree she looks like a generic American CG chatacter. More like a cross between Sophie Marceau and Monica Belluci. In MGS1 she did have a slightly Indian appearance to her artwork, but she was actually supposed to have been born in Zimbabwe.Originally posted by Dogg Thang View Post
I think Meryl is actually sassier in MGS4. She's one of the few characters which seems to have actually changed slightly - she's less whiny and wimpish (read the bathroom, sniper, 'oh Snake, thinking of you saved me from the torture' scenes in the original MGS).
I don't like what they did to Mei Ling though. Although it's the same actress she sounds nothing like she did in MGS1 (and briefly in MGS2). That and her character model has clearly been westernised.
I think one criticism you can level is that both of the more interesting female characters from MGS1 (which was hardly an unsexist game) have been even more sexualised in MGS4. Naomi looks like a supermodel who gets Eva side-boob treatment and a fixation on her stockings, and Meryl has to
Last edited by Concept; 30-06-2008, 11:48.Comment
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He's in MGS2 as well and I think
, so it was just Kojima's way of giving a minor character a bigger role. In the lead up to release I thought it was going to be a clone of Raiden (or something) behind the mask.
Perhaps they'll have a spin-off bowel rhythm game in the future. :PComment
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Yeah, I agree with your take on the women, Concept. Well, aside from the Meryl MGS1/4 thing. I remember her being very strong in MGS1, though admittedly it's been a long time (I'll find out in Replay!). I was happy to see that Meryl was still ripped though. I love that in a woman.
But on their roles and the sexism, as much as I loved Naomi's sideboob and without it I would have hated this game more as I would have had nothing to look for during the cut scenes, I agree.
And, yeah, Mardigan, I thought the exact same as you. At the very least I thought
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It says the original idea was to have the B+B's naked in their beauty form, awesome. All were captured naked too, ooer.Comment
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