Modern Warfare 2

[mikewl]

Obviously everyone on your team would have to be on your friends list to hear them

Thanks, that should do the job.

[mugetsu]

ive no idea how u change nat type on xbox but when u got it set to open you'll have absolutely no problems with the game at all.

on the other hand you could wait til tomorrows patch which is suposed to fix online matchmaking regardless of nat type

[Daragon]

I've had problems before with other games due to this same reason I'm assuming.

I really do need this dealing with on my end.

[Uli]

What is the point of collecting any hidden items?! They are just an extra option mate. You pine for realism in the game (sound of guns) but then you want unlockable slo-mo. Epic contradiction.

contradiction? why is that? i think you got me wrong mate. i was talking about quality here, not about turning the game into a war simulation. also, what's wrong with a proper reward other than achievements and gamerpoints? in don't care much about them as they offer nothing beyond a meaningless number.

and i loved the slow motion option in the predecessor and simply miss it here! for what reason?

[FelixofMars]

First thing to try is to reset the router, sometimes it just seems to get set to strict regardless of if it worked previously.

What type of router have you got?

Ok, found out that my NAT setting is set to strict and that I need to open some ports to allow a connection, only problem is I've no idea how to go about doing that.

Any pointers chaps?

[Daragon]

I've been following this video guide to open up my home hub's ports http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_dotUoCNgg

Can anyone confirm that it'll work, or has the guy just conjured these numbers out of thin air?

[ezee ryder]

I personally didn't spend ?26 on a game I want to hate, but I think the story is piss poor, as I've said. I'm kinda enjoying the multplayer, but find I have one enjoyable game, then the next game someone goes on a killing spree and the over powered streak weapons kick in, and the game becomes frustrating and ****. Then you play again and it's great fun

I wish some people would stop blasting anyone who has an opinion other than, "WOWOWOOWOWWOW!!". It's not just this game, it's every big release, you dare criticise any areas, you get people jumping on you. It's like some believe every big release is perfect, there's no room for improvement, and anyone who says anything negative about it hates it - as if that's some kind of personal assault on them. Bizarre.

I think it was Uli who said many pages back that it's possible to like a game while pointing out issues. Unconditional love is stupid.

It's also ok to debate certain things surely, you certainly do quite a bit of it. Nothing wrong with that of course, this is a forum after all.

I am a gamer who still gets excited by big releases, that Xmas feeling as some would say. Doesn't seem to be many of us around though, lol. I still truly enjoy the hobby and therefore I do like to have a good debate now and again about certain games. Apologies if some people feel offended by that. Ah well.

[Matt]

It's also ok to debate certain things surely, you certainly do quite a bit of it. Nothing wrong with that of course, this is a forum after all.

I am a gamer who still gets excited by big releases, that Xmas feeling as some would say. Doesn't seem to be many of us around though, lol. I still truly enjoy the hobby and therefore I do like to have a good debate now and again about certain games. Apologies if some people feel offended by that. Ah well.

What basically happens man is anyone saying anything like, "you know what, I'm not enjoying this!" is jumped on with crap like, "You're talking out of your arse, you don't know what you're talking about, you've never played the game, etc". And my personal favourite, "You say it's crap but offer no reason for it, so you don't know what you're talking about."

You don't see people saying, "You're saying how amazing this game is, but you offer no evidence other than your personal opinion, so you're wrong!"

As you say, debate is excellent, and I personally like to contribute when I can. However, the "WOWOWOW" crowd need to stop being so bloody protective of their latest little precious title. It is possible to like a game but see it has flaws. It's the All Or Nothing mentality that I personally find incomprehendible and frankly stupid.

In the case of CoD6, it would immediately be better if the story was comprehensible. Right now, I've no relationship with the characters, the story, and what I'm fighting for. Odd, as I really liked Cod2 and 4.

There isn't one game out there that couldn't be better, so it's worth discussing ways those titles could be better. Except Super Mario World

[rmoxon]

What basically happens man is anyone saying anything like, "you know what, I'm not enjoying this!" is jumped on with crap like, "You're talking out of your arse, you don't know what you're talking about, you've never played the game, etc". And my personal favourite, "You say it's crap but offer no reason for it, so you don't know what you're talking about."

You don't see people saying, "You're saying how amazing this game is, but you offer no evidence other than your personal opinion, so you're wrong!"

As you say, debate is excellent, and I personally like to contribute when I can. However, the "WOWOWOW" crowd need to stop being so bloody protective of their latest little precious title. It is possible to like a game but see it has flaws. It's the All Or Nothing mentality that I personally find incomprehendible and frankly stupid.

In the case of CoD6, it would immediately be better if the story was comprehensible. Right now, I've no relationship with the characters, the story, and what I'm fighting for. Odd, as I really liked Cod2 and 4.

There isn't one game out there that couldn't be better, so it's worth discussing ways those titles could be better. Except Super Mario World

The story is very simple, im not sure whats incomprehensible about it.

Anyway I'm not relaly in the WOWOWOW crowd myself, I'm not going out of my way to post 100 posts on how the game is amazing, though I do think it is. I was simpley pointing out that some people do seem to have played it with the intention of hating it and i think thats daft.

Most of the negative comments on here about the game seem to say things like "I bloody hate this even though its like a suped up COD4, which I loved". Dosent make much sense really.

[FelixofMars]

Pretty much it should work. I used to have a home hub and while I didn't have NAT issues all the time I think they are pretty flakey this will certainly help but it may still sometimes go back to strict. In those cases resetting it often helps.

I also open the ports on my current router in a similar way. Not that I am 100% sure I needed to :P

I've been following this video guide to open up my home hub's ports http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_dotUoCNgg

Can anyone confirm that it'll work, or has the guy just conjured these numbers out of thin air?

Chain, I know what you mean. Its another game at the end of the day, clearly emotions run high with some people. I think against most games it is average but the hype machine has run everyone into a feeding frenzy.

Its pretty much just MW 1.5, the same big issues of the last game (for me personally) have not been answered but then I didn't expect them to really. I hoped an while the multiplayer is improved I know Battlefield BC 2 is bound to blow this out the water even if the fanboys are still playing this 6 month later they will be happy with their nerfed game and will believe it is the best a shining example of a videogame, I am not so easily pleased.

I still prefer playing Rainbow Six Vegas or Battlefield 1943 to this, it is not game other year for me I know it has automatically won. My vote would go to Borderlands, it did something new (all be it not groundbreaking) the controls where smooth I cannot fault the way the game plays. I can easily pick 5 annoying things with COD SP which haven't been fixed since the first MW and to be fair have probably never been fixed in the whole series.

There I put my balls on the line... I await the abuse for not liking it that much

[EDDIE M0NS00N]

The story is very simple, im not sure whats incomprehensible about it.

I think its that the story jumps around too often - back & forth. I felt there was no connection with the characters either, even Soap.

Last night was hell on MP. My bro joined my Party, then we both got the msg telling us to switch to game chat, we both chose yes & I joined the game while my bro got left in the lobby. This happened about 10 times. The only way we could join the same game was if my bro invited me after it had started which of course risks being full. It also meant that if I did join a game that had already begun there was no guarantee I'd be on his team despite having the same clan tag.

I wasted about an hr pi55ing about with that nightmare.

[Matt]

The story may be simple, yes, but it's not being told well. It's all implied. There you are, meant to be fighting in what would, if it happened, be the biggest event in history, and it's underplayed. There's no drama, no sense of importance, no urgency. At least not so far, I'm not deep into it yet.

One possible reason Cod4 played better was because it was "believable". It's a scenario you could see happening, and you felt part of a mission. This plays like some teenagers macho scribblings. When you set the stakes as high as this game wants, you've got to have context to make it work.

And Suped Up does not mean better. See Gears 2 as a prime example.

It's always going to be tough getting an affinity with a character when you're chopping and changing who you are every mission, but they didn't do it too badly in Cod4. In this, the narrative is a couple of ridiculously gruff men gruffing some gruff nonsense with green lines going around the world as the next level opens. It's even badly mixed (see my comment in the UC2 thread about how you could clearly hear the characters, you shouldn't cast actors who sound like they smoke 5 packs a day as soldiers!).

Controlling wise, I didn't like how every time you were shot, the screen violently kicked up. Sure, a little is good to make it aggressive, but this was too much. Made aiming a bugger. No it's not realistic at all. Realism would be getting shot once, then dropping to the ground screaming like a bitch. That's what I'd do

[FelixofMars]

Don't forget the smearing of jam on your face every time you get hit

Controlling wise, I didn't like how every time you were shot, the screen violently kicked up. Sure, a little is good to make it aggressive, but this was too much. Made aiming a bugger. No it's not realistic at all. Realism would be getting shot once, then dropping to the ground screaming like a bitch. That's what I'd do

[Matt]

Don't forget the smearing of jam on your face every time you get hit

I liked the texture they used, it's the best "blood on face" I've seen. But yes, far too much, can't see a thing. Plus unless you are wearing goggles, you'd not get that effect, surely?

[PeteJ]

I don't mind the blood effect, works just as well as the old versions for me. I don't think the series ever claimed to be 'realistic', certainly based on reality but only in the same way Project Gotham is for racers. In fact Press Start said it right earlier in the thread - it's Burnout the FPS. I've played the entire game on the edge of my seat, litterally!

I do agree that the story is pants, although Spatial's initial similar response seems to have changed when reaching the end of the game so it may come together later on. I've never had a problem following the story on previous COD games and while I understand what's going on in this, it does a very poor job setting up one mission to the next. The first level on Act 2 is a prime example, the Wolverine levels I've done so far (two) seem to be completely disconnected from the rest of the game (yes, I get the story and the reasoning, but its still disjointed). I don't have a clue about the characters or why I'm defending

->Open Spoiler<-

burger joints and some random bloke

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Which is odd, because the SAS missions have been universally brilliant and cohesive.

I love every other part of the game though, and to me IW have overtaken Valve in the linear corridor FPS genre. That'll probably change with HL2 E3 though!