Halo Reach

[Matt]

Hey, I'm happy a dev is taking cheating seriously, in whatever form. I can see your point, but believe it's wrong. And they're not just cheating the game, they're cheating those of us who are ranking legitimately. Sure, it's all for cosmetic benefit, but that's not the point.

[Charlie]

It's just dawned on me that rank effects the matchmaking 'ranked' Arena matches (ironically it would pit the so-called 'cheaters' against more skilled/experienced players) so, I take back what I said about Bungie defelecting blame, and can understand why they're taking action.

[Family Fry]

Golden rule is don't let the gamer think they can cheat the system and get away with it.
Legitimate cheating? hmmm, it is best to put the foot down early than to have it all ruined later on.
People are actually genuinely upset they used a glitch to farm points so that they could buy armour upgrades, rather than actually playing the game? Doesn't CR effect rank?

Oh look it took me 2 solid days of repeating the same glitch to have my ODST armour, aint I the greatest?
WHAT?! how dare you take it away Bungie, how dare you moderate your game waaaaaa waaaaaaa

[EvilBoris]

The actual exploit was a network exploit, which usually is done by pls who exploit during the game too.

They've only had a 1 day ban and had their credits reset so it's hardly the end of the world, they'll just have to earn everything the same as the Rest of us

[MJ]

15,000 have had Credit Resets

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=49997802&postRepeater1-p=1

Some posts are awesome.
I didn't realise this credit farming challenges was classed as cheating

Bungie have this to say about cR farming:

If you?ve devised an ingeniously elaborate method to circumvent our credit cap or exploit our challenge system, all of your ?hard work? is soon to be for naught. While we understand the compulsion to race to the top and earn all the good gear before any of your friends do, network manipulation and other easily detectable workarounds that fall well outside of standard gameplay will result in a credit reset and several other punitive measures designed to knock you back down to a level playing field with all the rest of us who are playing the game without having to resort to exploits. We're watching you.

Without calling attention to specific methods, here are a couple of examples to help you wrap your mind around what we consider acceptable behavior and what we consider the machinations of people with way too much time on their hands:

Example 1: Laziness is Next to Godliness
You?ve commissioned your little brother to play through the same section of ONI: Sword Base over and over again, wielding the Target Locator like a barbarian?s cudgel in a quest to hit your daily credit cap without ever having to lay a finger on the controller.

This is a little bit sad, but it is not an offense we?re going to punish. *You* are playing the game. Keep your credits (but please go easy on your little brother).

Example Deuce: Communication Breakdown
You?ve written a crafty piece of code in your spare time that plays the same section of ONI: Sword Base over and over, wielding the Target Locator like a mechanical death ray in a sad, robotic quest to hit your daily credit cap while you?re busy doing something that isn?t playing the game.

This is really sad and you can expect to have your credits wiped and your armor items reset (and you can possibly expect to be banned, depending on the severity of the manipulation). We?ve already got a sizable list of offenders gathered up and the Banhammer is being heaved high into the air as soon as this afternoon. Make your peace. You get no warning. We?ll see you on the forums real soon!

And:

Tell you what has been getting me down is the boot player feature and how sensitive it is, I am not someone who intentionally kills my team mates and the times it has happened have been genuine accidents. It seems though the randoms I play with like to eject a legit team mate, making the team a man down for no reason!
I have had the boot player come up a few times and never took it as I saw the scenario around me and saw it was clearly an accident, example recently I hijackied a wraith only to have my team mate rocket it from miles away, should I boot him and loose a player who was trying to take down a wraith?

Bungie are making a change to the boot system:

The second salvo for October will include the fix to the current betrayal booting system, bringing it back in line with Halo 3 (three strikes and you?re out)

Both are in the Weekly Update:

http://www.bungie.net/news/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid=28998

[Charlie]

We’ve already got a sizable list of offenders gathered up and the Banhammer is being heaved high into the air as soon as this afternoon. Make your peace. You get no warning. We’ll see you on the forums real soon!

Haha. Credit (no pun intended) where it's due, I love the casual language Bungie use in their statements.

[FelixofMars]

The funny thing is the two guys I know went through the glitches getting their credits and selling up straight away to stop Bungie from deleting their credit. I think they finished all the levels and had their 1000/1000. Then Bungie did their whole ban hammer too late. LOL BUNGIE!

To be honest their credit system sucks. All I want is the exploding heart death thing (already got Bucks voice) and then I couldn't give a hoot. Sorry why do I need a ski mask attachment for a helmet. At this rate with the interest I have in MP I will be finished in about 2011 doing that.

To be fair I think you get the most credits for doing Firefight score attack alone so I am not even bothering with MP unless my friends as me to.

[JohnMcL7]

15,000 have had Credit Resets

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=49997802&postRepeater1-p=1

Some posts are awesome.
I didn't realise this credit farming challenges was classed as cheating etc. Priceless.

Tell you what has been getting me down is the boot player feature and how sensitive it is, I am not someone who intentionally kills my team mates and the times it has happened have been genuine accidents. It seems though the randoms I play with like to eject a legit team mate, making the team a man down for no reason!
I have had the boot player come up a few times and never took it as I saw the scenario around me and saw it was clearly an accident, example recently I hijackied a wraith only to have my team mate rocket it from miles away, should I boot him and loose a player who was trying to take down a wraith?
Damn them all!

It's good to see they're changing the boot system, genuine accidents do happen and I don't understand why people are so quick to boot players. I was playing rocketfight the other day and one of my team-mates accidentally killed me, I heard over the voice comms 'Sorry guys, I'm about to get booted will catch you after this game'. Of course I didn't kick the guy as when there's four of you unloading rockets everywhere there's bound to be some accidental deaths. It does get annoying when some team-mates are rubbish with vehicles and do a few accidental deaths but I don't boot people unless I think it's intentional.

John

[FelixofMars]

The boot system is flawed anyway, it comes up right across the screen so accidental boots are possible. Also you can't boot people who are idling or as I have seen in a few games people on your team doing purpose damage to you but not enough to kill you.

In fact matchmaking in general is still flawed. If people drop out before the start of the match it doesn't rebalance and it certainly doesn't try to find new replacement players. Just carrys on the countdown and launches.

[JohnMcL7]

Yeah, it would be good to be able boot idle players or have them automatically kicked as on slayer or similar game types it 's an easy kill for the opposite team.

What is 'gruntpocolypse'? I see it referred to a lot but I haven't seen it in firefight matchmaking which I assume is where it is?

John

[plopboy]

What is 'gruntpocolypse'? I see it referred to a lot but I haven't seen it in firefight matchmaking which I assume is where it is?
John

You essentially fight lots of grunts, have a go solo just make sure you are on the spartan side.

It is one of the Firefight modes you can choose.

[FelixofMars]

Gruntpocolypse is a Firefight type, there is a gametype in the Firefight option or its selectable from the score attack menu in Matchmaking. The Corvette seems like a good map for it.

The DMR is a great weapon for getting those grunts as well. getting headshots on them is key. I hate the fuel rod ones

[Blaiz0r]

Is anyone interested in starting a coop legendary campaign this evening? I'm looking for a good team.

[Uli]

i read gamers have already started cheating on Reach's MP to get more credits... for a few cosmetic armor-parts and voice overs?

Is anyone interested in starting a coop legendary campaign this evening? I'm looking for a good team.

i am close to finishing Legendary solo and would love to check out co-op. so send me an invite (Uli 68).

[JohnMcL7]

i read gamers have already started cheating on Reach's MP to get more credits... for a few cosmetic armor-parts and voice overs?

Yeah, link is here:

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=49997802&postRepeater1-p=1

A lot of people getting quite worked up about their rank/credits it seems.

John