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    With brawler being a thing STR builds aren't so bad as they used to though. Melee will also restore shield or make you invis which is great for PoE.

    Anyway, if you guys are looking for an OP Heavy Machine Gun, try to shoot for the BTRD 345 which drops in crucible. Its hilariously good, easily the best there is (funny enough, this is also stated in the description). Carbon copy of Thunderlord but with much higher stability and higher base magazine, albeit a slower reload. Its as stable as Suros, got a 20 streak with it in Crucible and the 3 bounties (heavies and Iron Wrath) in one game.

    I do have Thunderlord and a perfect Jolder roll, but this one is better.

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      Okay, so after all this time I finally got around to downloading & playing the 360 Demo of Destiny.
      Problem is that after the opening piece about living in the golden ages etc I suddenly lose sound completely. It happens just as the game starts (camera scrolling over the baron landscape & rocks).

      Any way I can fix this coz altho I can play the game I have to have the subtitles on to know what the hell I'm supposed to do, plus its an atmos killer too?

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        Holy **** guys.

        been trying to do the level 32 Prison of Elders stage.

        We get destroyed on the final round on the Qodron Vex Gate Lord boss. We just get picked off by the eye thing that traps you. The jump in difficulty from the preceding 4 levels is huge.

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          Originally posted by bcass View Post
          As I mentioned above, the ToO & PoE gear drop with random elemental burn. This way you can get a solar hand canon from both, which is what I'm really after. The only thing I collect in this game is raid gear and exotics. Generally not interested in any of the PvP stuff, nor any of the faction stuff, except all the Dead Orbit shaders (which I have) and the Dead Orbit ship. I'm almost up to level 90 with Dead Orbit across 3 characters, and the ship still hasn't dropped for me yet. I didn't even start levelling Dead Orbit until after the Dark Below expansion, which is when the faction ships were first introduced. I've never come across anyone in a fireteam who has it either. The faction ships are likely the rarest items in the game.
          I've head a few people obsessed with the dead orbit shader and ship, bit of a waste of time isn't it?
          Last edited by fishbowlhead; 08-06-2015, 06:51.

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            Originally posted by fishbowlhead View Post
            I've head a few people obsessed with the dead orbit shader and ship, bit of a waste of time isn't it?
            This pretty much sums up Destiny and the type of game it is.

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              Originally posted by Family Fry View Post
              This pretty much sums up Destiny and the type of game it is.
              Gotta disagree for the most part, the core gameplay is much better than any other shooter out there. The characters have a wonderful sense of weight and momentum, not to mention the many types of guns in the game which all feel and behave massively different. The exotics in particular are brilliant all with there own quirks and foibles.

              However, some aspects of the game are grossly, unnecessarily grindy, I agree on that point.

              It seems bungie are slowly listening on that though, the treasure keys being sorted out and are now much less rare, so there's hope yet.

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                Destiny is the best shooter currently available. and that is for a number of reasons. core gameplay, world design, level and loot system, social functions, etc. the fact that so many gamers still play the game so intensely is proof.

                but i can really feel the lack of a new Raid now that the novelty of the new missions, bounties and coop arena starts to wear off. i hope it comes sooner rather then later. i also miss in game functions to gather a fireteam for nightfalls and prison of elders.

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                  Destiny has the best gunplay of any FPS, ever. I bought the Master Chief collection recently for a trip down memory lane, and the gunplay in Destiny walks all over Halo, and the first Halo was already miles ahead of every FPS made since its release. I doubt we've seen all the bosses yet in PoE, plus I think they're going to do something extra with the expansion a month or so down the line, a bit like when they added hard modes to VoG and Crota's End raids about a month after their release. There's plenty to do now if you want to get all the new guns and perfect armour setups for all three characters. What I like about PoE is that it really rewards all the long time players - the players who have been collecting the best of each weapon type and burn combinations - you're going to need those setups if you have any hope of beating lvl35 every week.

                  Originally posted by fishbowlhead View Post
                  I've head a few people obsessed with the dead orbit shader and ship, bit of a waste of time isn't it?
                  There's 4 Dead Orbit shaders, and the reason they're so popular (besides the fact that they're some of the rarest items in the game) is because they are also the best looking. You can't go far wrong with the white/black & black/black combinations! I also think the ship is the best looking in the game too:

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                    The shaders do look nice from dead orbit granted. Don't like the ship much though, can't say I'm a fan of 99% of the ship designs, think bungie could do much better with them on the cool factor front.


                    There's been rumours of a lv35 vog update for a while now, maybe that will be implemented at some stage?

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                      Originally posted by bcass View Post
                      I bought the Master Chief collection recently for a trip down memory lane, and the gunplay in Destiny walks all over Halo, and the first Halo was already miles ahead of every FPS made since its release. I doubt we've seen all the bosses yet in PoE.
                      Console yes, PC FPS no PC FPS's where already years ahead of Halo on release. Last new PoE boss is this week for the currently levels, but expect new PoE level to be added with future expansion.

                      I already have one of the Dead Orbit Shader, but I can't say I've seen that ship around much.

                      Beat the Boss at 35 last week, can't say I think it's a good fight as it all depends on the equipment your team, anyone who isn't 34 and has gear that isn't 331 or 365 is in real trouble.

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                        Originally posted by S3M View Post
                        Console yes, PC FPS no PC FPS's where already years ahead of Halo on release.
                        I cant think of anything bar Half-Life from 1998 and that was a different beast altogether a corridor shooter with very basic enemy Ai which has more in common with doom and quake.

                        Halo had clever Ai, big open levels and really cool well put together campaign, what was better on the pc in 2001?
                        Last edited by Lebowski; 10-06-2015, 14:39.

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                          nothing. PC purists will of course never accept that a console shooter played with a controller set the standards for years to come.

                          Destiny may have surpassed Halo in terms of core gameplay but unfourtunately lacks a coherent story/campaign. AI in Destiny is also not as smart and varied as in Halo.

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                            Originally posted by Uli View Post
                            nothing. PC purists will of course never accept that a console shooter played with a controller set the standards for years to come.

                            Destiny may have surpassed Halo in terms of core gameplay but unfourtunately lacks a coherent story/campaign. AI in Destiny is also not as smart and varied as in Halo.
                            Unfortunately every single game since halo ce has failed on the ai side. Though I had a few moments in halo3 where the ai shone through, particularly in the big battles when all the human ai is driving around doing their own thing independently, very impressive stuff.

                            The ai in destiny is quite disappointing considering its lineage.

                            Completely agree on the PC fps front.
                            Last edited by fishbowlhead; 10-06-2015, 22:23.

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                              Originally posted by Lebowski View Post
                              I cant think of anything bar Half-Life from 1998 and that was a different beast altogether a corridor shooter with very basic enemy Ai which has more in common with doom and quake.

                              Halo had clever Ai, big open levels and really cool well put together campaign, what was better on the pc in 2001?
                              Sad to think you guys haven't played classics like, Jedi Knight, Shogo, System Shock 2 or Deus Ex, time to take a trip to GOG for you guys, there all worth owning.

                              Quake's AI was what moved FPS forward with the enemies stalking you across the whole level. Can't say I found the Halo A.I was any better than Perfect Dark or Golden Eye.

                              Funny thing here is Uli is that I'm not a big PC gamer at all.
                              Last edited by S3M; 10-06-2015, 23:01.

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                                Originally posted by S3M View Post
                                Sad to think you guys haven't played classics like, Jedi Knight, Shogo, System Shock 2 or Deus Ex, time to take a trip to GOG for you guys, there all worth owning.
                                Good shout! I love those games. I bought SHOGO last week along with Kingpin.

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