Edge Top 100

[Concept]

Should have been 77, surely?

I had a flick through it today at WH Smiths and it's not a bad feature. To not include Panzer Dragoon Saga though is baffling - I can only assume that it's because there weren't enough reader votes.

[Grapple Convoy]

FF12 in the top ten?

WTF?

Personally I wouldn't have allowed the inclusion of any of the Final Fantasy series in the top 100, because they simply aren't videogames.

[Malc]

A long quote from the first page of Edge:
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We've been here before, of course. In issue 80 we laid out a list of the 100 best video games of all time in accordance with the extensive (and you probably don't want to know how heated) deliberation of the magazine's staff. Then, in issue 128, we gathered together another 100, this time grouped by genre.

The difference with this new collection is that its 100 games have been compiled with the co-operation of Edge readers.

When we invited you to send in your votes for the worlds best video games, you responded in your thousands. These responses formed a master list, which in turn went through further processes of voting involving industry types and Edge writers from further afield. Confused yet, Hey, You didn't have to compile the thing.

Furthermore, we didn't want to fill the list with multiple iterations of the same series if they were of the same template. so, for example you'll find only one of mario's 2D platform adventures within these pages.(No, Yoshis Island isn't a mario game. not really)

We're confident that, at the end of the process, we have arrived at a hefty group of games that really do represent the 100 best. At the same time, of course, we're certain that you'll have plenty of feedback, so be sure to send it to the Usual Edge address.

Now, Enjoy the collection...
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I skipped only a minimal number of lines that were irrelavant.

(My hands hurt!)

[Concept]

If it's only with co-operation then you have to question some admissions. I don't think the list does too badly... there are certainly some odd choices there in odd positions but let's face it, whatever was placed in would have raised questions somewhere. You can't please everybody.

My main problem with the list is that it seems caught between placing games in there for historical relevance and the impact they had, and between placing games which are modern, relevant or have stood the test of time. It doesn't really fulfil either.

[Wools]

My main problem with the list is that it seems caught between placing games in there for historical relevance and the impact they had, and between placing games which are modern, relevant or have stood the test of time. It doesn't really fulfil either.

But they don't, Edge said that every game has to be playable today and is in their opinion the best 100 games ever made today.

Read the indervidual paragraphs and they explain their choices, along with how good the game is.

And Malcolm, how long did it take to copy out that entire first page from my magazine?

[Malc]

And Malcolm, how long did it take to copy out that entire first page from my magazine?

sorry Wools, I took care of it!

[Concept]

But they don't, Edge said that every game has to be playable today and is in their opinion the best 100 games ever made today.

Read the indervidual paragraphs and they explain their choices, along with how good the game is.

And Malcolm, how long did it take to copy out that entire first page from my magazine?

Well, I can only go back to Brat's point. Based on that stance, is Doom 2 really what you would class amongst the 100 very best videogames that you can play here and now, today?

I can understand it's inclusion based on historical importance, but would you really include Doom 2? Wipeout? Tony Hawks Pro Skater 2?

Or more modern based games like PES 6? Ridge Racers 2? Jet Set Radio Future...

In the top 100?

If you're going to include latest iterations like PES 6 and VF5 over their more groundbreaking counterparts, then why include Wipeout or Tony Hawks 2 and Devil May Cry over 3?

Like I said, there's a reasonable case to say the list is inconsistent. The only defense you can use is that the master list is based off complete reader input, but it makes some exclusions, both in terms of iterations and original games, mind boggling.

The PC is under-represented for a start, and this is coming from someone who is primarily a console gamer and only has cursory knowledge over the last eight or so years on the system.

[Malc]

I suppose for Edge, thats in thier opinion. You could get someone who completely thinks the list should be filled up with japenese RPG's (not mentioning any games magazine's)

I personally think Doom 2 and that shouldn't be in the top 100, but then again thats my opinion.

So long as opinions exist, so will debations etc... etc...

[Wools]

Well, I can only go back to Brat's point. Based on that stance, is Doom 2 really what you would class amongst the 100 very best videogames that you can play here and now, today?

I can understand it's inclusion based on historical importance, but would you really include Doom 2? Wipeout? Tony Hawks Pro Skater 2?

Like I said, there's a reasonable case to say the list is inconsistent.

I love Doom 2 so I would but agree with your other point about what people class the best in the series.

I would class Wip3out, Ridge Racer Type 4, Thief 3, Resident Evil 2 and quite a few others over Edge's opinion of their best in the series but they do explain their reasoning in the articles so I can't really argue! Except the exclusion of any Sonic The Hedgehog, I can't believe they left them out!

[sj33]

I'd say games that feature in these things should be games which stand the test of time, games like Mario World and Ocarina of Time I would argue are just as brilliant and playable today as they were when they were released, and I think newcomers would enjoy them just as much today. To me, this separates games that were groundbreaking at the time, to games which are truely masterpieces.

On the other hand, it only takes a flick through Retro Gamer (not an attack on the mag, I love it) to realise that people will always feel that way about their personal favourite games, be it Ocarina of Time, or some C64 game which many of us would find bearly playable.

[Dogg Thang]

Except the exclusion of any Sonic The Hedgehog, I can't believe they left them out!

Yeah, a top 100 games list without Sonic is pretty crazy.

I reckon the dust should settle on a game before it is allowed into a list like this. FFXII may well deserve it (I don't know, I haven't played it), but it needs to be judged after the excitement of a new game has worn off. Two years, I reckon. Two years before being allowed into any top anything list.

Actually, was Gears of War in there?

[Concept]

Nope, thank God. :P

[Charlie]

No Gears? Edge readers are bloody rubbish.

[gossi the dog]

No Skies of Arcadia? Although tbh It's an alright list

[parkinho]

Thought it was a decent list myself. Really glad to see Tempest 2000 up there, it is still as entrancing today as it was back in '94. Surprised but not disappointed at Sonic's absence mind you.