PSVita (Successor to PSP, was PSP2 then NGP)

[nakamura]

Its bizarre watching people moan that the Vita has no games - Can any of these people name a console release this gen which had a higher metacritic score for its software within the 1st four months of release?

Irrelevant when most of those titles are carbon copies of games that launched with the PSP years ago. Also most people looking to buy a Vita will have a PS3 or 360 and when the console is trying so hard to be one of those it loses all identity. People get used to the impressive screen and visuals and realise they are better off playing Fifa, Wipeout and Ridge Racer on the proper machines.

[jim g]

Sold mine today as I think it will die a death quite quick which will be a shame as it is a great machine. Maybe I will be proved wrong but right now I will take the money

[Fuddle]

Irrelevant when most of those titles are carbon copies of games that launched with the PSP years ago. Also most people looking to buy a Vita will have a PS3 or 360 and when the console is trying so hard to be one of those it loses all identity. People get used to the impressive screen and visuals and realise they are better off playing Fifa, Wipeout and Ridge Racer on the proper machines.

"Irrelevant", "proper machines"
brilliant

[Neon Ignition]

No-one could not love the hardware but there's no getting around the fact that Sony has very critical issues in terms of addressing public perception of the system and its software output. I'd say these are the real ones to go for if you?re looking to buy a Vita:

-Uncharted: Golden Abyss
-Gravity Rush
-Persona 4: The Golden (if via Japan)
-Escape Plan
-Super Stardust Delta
-Unit 13

Everything else is either available in better form on another format or not that great a version/release. It?s mostly down to how much the user wants to pad the line up out to get use of their Vita. PSP games are a mute point too, as seen in Japan, peeps can just as easily buy a PSP to play those. It?s great that I could get Persona 3 in the sale and have it to play on my Vita but it?s not a point in the Vita?s favour in regards to its worth or fortunes, neither will PS1 games be. Backwards compatibility has always been one of those things everyone cries out for but only a small portion of owners use. The issue of the Vita is simply price (thanks to the memory card issue which will have put many off) and a lack of forward outlook for its releases. It?s fine to say it?s always a draught in the first year but the fact is the Vita?s sales figures show that the issue is greater than that, hell, the system is a year old in Japan this December and Sony seems happy to let the lucrative Xmas window go by without much support into a Year 2 with less lined up than Year 1. It is a worse situation than Nintendo faced.

[Brad]

I agree with the above except that I think Rayman is actually better suited to a portable device. I simply wouldn't play it on a home console (almost certainly in the minority here, I know).

[ItsThere]

I agree with the above except that I think Rayman is actually better suited to a portable device. I simply wouldn't play it on a home console (almost certainly in the minority here, I know).

Having played it on the 360 and the Vita, the Vita is the one that got more playtime from me and the one I completed.

The 360 one was very good but the smaller screen of the Vita made it more personal, easier to actually see what was going on and allowed me to spend more time perfecting runs without hogging the main TV for many hours at a time.

I think that if I ever actually bought Mortal Kombat the converse would be true. I don't like fighters on handhelds.

[SUMIRE]

Yeah, Rayman just seems perfect for the Vita.

There are plenty of games on it for me, Vita specific and a load of awesome PSP classics. I can't believe anyone (even if you had owned a PSP before) would be able to play all those great titles as well as owning a regular console for gaming as well.

But, yeah, it is getting a bit boring now reading the same old moans. We get it, "you" don't think there are enough games on it, fair play, leave it at that and move on with your lives.

[Brad]

Yeah the back catalog of PSP is incredible. I'm probably gonna get back onto Monster Hunter at some point.
nice to see I'm not alone on my Rayman thoughts. You can tell how good a version it is by the fact that you can zoom in and still retain fidelity. Very little evidence of corner cutting on the game that I could see (not played the console versions so might be totally wrong!).

[nakamura]

I enjoyed Super Street Figher IV much more on 3DS even though it is clearly better on console. It just worked for me on the machine so I get where you are coming from.

[MisterBubbles]

FSW, getting in MH couldn't be cheaper right now as Monster Hunter Freedom Unite is 5.49 on the store.

[Brad]

I already have it mate! Played a fair bit on the PSP but switched to Tri on the Wii when that came out.

[dvdx2]

The Vita has been out for just over 4 months in Europe. There has not been another console launched in history with the quality and depth of titles available that the Vita has this soon after launch. Objectively, subjectively, critically, wibblywobblytively whatever way you want to cut it, the Vita has an almost unprecedented amount of solid titles so soon after launch. The Vita might suffer from the fact there are a large amount of other platforms, mobile and home console that are offering a veritable glut of titles, but I fail to see what it is you want Sony to do? What more, realistically, can they do here? They've delivered a powerful, dual sticked handheld, tailored towards the hardcore market, when such a move might been seen as commercial suicide. They've made a large games library available, with a mix of titles from different generes, at different price points and with ready digital availability. They've had multiple sales, including promotions and reductions on the massive PSP catalogue. Unless you literally play games for 24 hours a day I fail to see how anyone could, seriously, have burnt through the entire Vita catalogue.

And yet still people f**king moan. Take a look at yourselves. If you want a library of hundreds of titles and a mature platform, buy it when it's mature. If you want to be an early adopter, then put up and shut up. In the case of the Vita, doubly so.

The hardware is great - no argument there. My concern is the lack of vita games. Going into a shop yields pretty much the same games from launch and there doesnt seem to be much on the short term horizon. Where are the games from konami, squaresoft, sega etc?? I'll say it again; when i say there is little new stuff out for the vita, i mean games specially programmed for the vita - I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE PSP CATALOGUE - I AM TALKING ABOUT NEW GAMES FOR THE VITA

Secondly, correct me if i'm wrong, but this is a public forum to express different view points, its hardly moaning. Telling someone to 'put up and shut up' is a really idiotic thing to say...

Thirdly, i have spend over ?400 on this mr sony, I want more than a f**king back catalogue of psp games/ports of old games; i want support from all the big names, to produce consistant, high quality NEW software.

I've made my point, so i'll just put up and shut up now i think

[cavalcade]

I just told you not to moan about it. Because you are moaning. The usual entitled gamer whinge that pervades every corner of the internet now.

You go into a shop and see only the launch titles and a handful of newer games. Well newsflash - that's because it was launched 4 months ago. When you went into a shop 4 months after the 360 came out they'd relegated PGR3 and PDZ behind copies of Alan Wake and LA Noire? Oh no, that's right, they still had the launch titles there. Unlike the Vita they also had nothing else. The Vita has had 2 exceptional, unique games since launch in Gravity Rush and Unit 13 as well a middling stuff like Resistance and console ports such as D3 and MGS. The 360 waited about a year until something worth spending any money turned up for it. DS. Same. 3DS, same. Every console ever? SAME. Shouting "where are my gamez Sony" four months after launch is just the entitled gamer whinge taken to a whole new level considering the depth and breadth of titles available for the system currently.

Demanding a constant stream of high-quality new software in such a new platform is utterly baffling to me. Apart from the fact I'd argue that Sony have presented a stream of high quality software since launch (Unit 13, Gravity Daze, D3 "wah wah console port" and the MGS Collection "wah wah, native rez, wah wah on the consoles wah wah") and there's plenty of other stuff in the pipeline I'm looking at. I can see if you were perhaps unemployed, had no family, only had a Vita and sat in a darkened room all day burning through the catalogue you could complain, but most people have other systems too. Here's a radical thought, how about accepting the Vita as part of a balanced gaming diet, as something that supports your other systems and offers enough unique games and experiences that you could hold on to it, rather than hysterically selling it for the money because it's "dead".

I love the Vita. I was deeply skeptical about it, and bought it on a whim. It works for me because it offers a home console like experience on a device that's portable and can be instantly suspended/resumed. Thanks to this I've completed more games on the Vita in 2 or 3 months than I probably managed over the last couple of years. I don't care that some of the games/franchises are on other platforms, because I know I'll play them on the Vita because of the nature of the platform and how it suits my life. The spork brigade, "I'd going to buy an iPad... I've bought an iPad.... what do I use this for?.... I'm selling my iPad..... I hate the iPad!....." have moved in on the Vita with alarming haste and it drives me insane. The Vita has been subjected to the most vociferous and unwarranted bleating and whining campaign on internet forums I have ever seen. And it's utterly unjustified. As much as you credit a corporation with doing something to appeal to hardcore gamers rather than their bottom line Sony have essentially done just that. Created a platform designed for people who frequent places like rllmuk and borderdown. And large swathes of this community have picked up large handfuls of dung and chucked them in Mr Sony's face while whining incessantly about how they deserve better.

So yes. I am telling you to put up with it, or sell it and stop talking about it because you're adding nothing to the debate.

[J0e Musashi]

*awards cavalcade partnership in the Vita Defence Force*

[Dogg Thang]

Cavalcade, you're just whinging about the posts now. It's the same as your last whinge only longer. What do you expect? It has been the same in the post-launch threads on the 360, the DS, 3DS. Every post-launch thread ever? Same. Demanding a better standard of post is just poster entitlement at its... Hang on, now I'm whinging about the whinging about the whinging...

It's an endless whinging infinity loop. We're doomed! Save us large hadron collider!