Nintendo Wii U

[Brad]

I think you need an achievement for completing 2 player Ikaruga on your own though.

That needs vidcap + youtube post + adulation from peers. That's your achievement!

[Jay]

Glad no achievements. Beating the game - that's an achievement. Getting a higher score than your mates - that's another, getting the highest score in the world - that's another. Just 3, that's all you need.

I love how some achievements have you playing games in creative ways or have you carrying out some sort of metagame and it's those sort of achievements I miss when systems don't have them. eg surviving for 60 seconds in a shmup without shooting. Sure you could just do that anyway, but I love getting that little bloop for completing something like that. Another good one was the C to Shining C achievement in SFIV which is a great way of encouraging players to get to grips with all the characters in the cast. The big score that sits next to your gamertag is meaningless, but achievements really can add a lot to a game for me.

[gordon]

I think you need an achievement for completing 2 player Ikaruga on your own though.

It's a video that has been on my Youtube favourites list for about five years. It never gets old: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZEGyrEnXrk

Also, achievements interfere with the atmosphere on Shadow of the Colossus on the PS3. Which is why I still prefer the unsullied-by-badges PS2 version.

[dataDave]

I'm not against them as such, they are used in such a wasteful manor.

Resident Evil 6. Got 5g for going into the action figures menu. What?

This is what I have against them.

Another one is when you get 100pts for clearing each level in a game that clearly has 10 levels.

Achievements should mean just that, achievements. I'd re-work them entirely and have them much more elitist than they currently are.

Some of the Burnout: Crash ones are good, where you have to hold a leading position on the leaderboards for a certain amount of time (If I'm not mistaken). It's like a medal for your service, and even if you become a terrible player they are there as a reminder of how good you used to be. WoW had some good ones as well which I could use to this day to get myself into most PvP guilds, if I was mental enough to start playing again.

99.9% of the time they are just plain lazy and bollocks. Points for entering menus.. WTF. People get paid a wage to implement that? How about they spend those resources on making their game not ****e instead?

[importaku]

Best one ever was the achievement for unlocking an achievement, it made me laugh.

[originalbadboy]

I dont hate achievements, in fact they are quite fun sometimes but i just cant believe people having a pop at Nintendo over it.

The only reason why I am slightly disappointed is that I am fairly certain Nintendo said the WiiU would have them. I won't miss them, but in the end its Nintendo thats been making all these 'claims' about the WiiU being able to do this and that, and none of it is available at launch. I think its fair to have a pop considering.

[parkinho]

Other than having fun?

I think achievements are wank. Totally pointless.

Spot on Mr Fallows!

[Family Fry]

Achievements.
Steam Achievements.
Trophies.

Nintendments?
OF COURSE NOT! no one wants them.

Here's me thinking after 3DS quest/puzzle streetpass Nintendo could have improved the Achievement experience.

[Goemon]

This is what I have against them.
99.9% of the time they are just plain lazy and bollocks. Points for entering menus.. WTF. People get paid a wage to implement that? How about they spend those resources on making their game not ****e instead?

Depends which way you look at it...
They spent time implementing the menu, how many people enter it and have a look? If you can entice people to wander in and have a look then why not do it? I know a lot of achievements these days are linked to getting people to try out all areas of a game and I myself have wandered into a gallery menu because of an achievement and ended up having a look through.

I think companies are using achievements to help give them feedback about the game. A lot of people with the level 6 achievement? probably means there was something on level 5 that stopped a lot of people playing. Also, making them too elitist would just put people off. There is a massive variance between the skills of different players, why should only good players get the enjoyment of getting uber achievements.

I personally like achievements because I like to look at what people achieved; especially if I've tried to do it myself. Perfecting the last boss of Battle Fantasia and parry the flame attack for example. I tried for hours and hours and never got that, so to see people with that achievement in their list I know what they went through to get it and give them credit.

Dave - I still actually marvel at your ability to do F-Zero GX on very hard, considering I tried forever and couldn't do it. I only know this because you mentioned it on here. Why not have a little badge on your profile that tells me this?

[Herbalizer]

Just pre ordered from Shopto. Went with the ZombiU pack with Mario. Curse my gadget lust.

[Brad]

Re: Nintendo Wii U

I'd have had money on me cracking before you. I just want the base system + ZombieU I think.

[JU!]

Iwata San talking about Mii verse n colored balls equalling storage space bobbins and HDD connection. In Japanese no subs.

Browser stuff English.

[teddymeow]

Just watched the video about WaraWara Plaza. That has got me super-excited! Not bad for a menu screen!!

[PaTaito]

The really annoying thing isnt not having achievements, but rather the reason why nintendo wont go there properly.

Because they are too stubborn for their own good.

I mean its something and nothing really, but it wouldnt be difficult to implement, and many gamers have voiced a desire for the feature...so the question for me is why the hell not?

There is reason to implement, but no reason not to...

Oh wait its a small innovation that someone else came up with.

[noobish hat]

Time was it was games that got people excited about a new system. Now it's the menus. PROGRESS!