Resolutiongate (resolution discussion)

[Guts]

It matters if I decide to put down over ?400 for one of them.

[MisterBubbles]

The resolution isn't really the main case for me. Its this a more expensive console doesn't perform as good as a cheaper console. Yes you can be happy with expensive console if your getting it for exclusives. But if we are objectively looking at the two console side by side and seeing the differences, then we all know the winner. Of course that doesn't mean you can't have fun on the expensive console. It may be childish playground stuff but i feel a lot of the fanboy stuff just now is like payback for the last gen, Xbox fans talking about the George Forman griller and bragging about how multi-plat games are better on 360.

[sj33]

Should we no longer talk about colours, sprite sizes and scaling in retro threads, then? Street Fighter 2 on the MegaDrive looks identical to the Snes version to some, so it obviously also looks exactly the same to everybody else too and thus is a complete non-issue and should not be talked about.

[Lebowski]

It matters if I decide to put down over ?400 for one of them.

From a purely price and power view the ps4 seems to be the winner, but then if you want to play Titanfall, Dead Rising Gears or Halo what choice do you have this gen, there not going to look better on the ps4 as there not coming to the ps4.

yeah you could wait 18 months for a price drop and play stuff then but it matters not to me my ps4 cost me 430 as it came with Killzone a camera and a extra pad where as my xbox cost 400 and came with a game and kinect, its not a massive difference in price.

[djtickle]

Not sure if this has been said yet but the upcoming Thief game runs 900p on XBO and 1080p on PS4.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-02-18-thief-1080p-on-ps4-900p-on-xbox-one

Also heres a video comparing MGS versions.

[Neon Ignition]

I'd still wager Titanfall 2 follows pretty rapidly and is on PS4 as well as Rising 3 getting an eventual port, not that they contribute to the discussion

However that is pretty much the nail on the head fact for XBO, if your friend list or likely exclusives are important to you then XBO is a perfectly good choice. If Sonys exclusives or having mostly the best version multiplatform titles or cost is important then PS4 wins it. Either way, the resolution difference is certainly less than we've had to deal with between rival platforms in past gens

[J0e Musashi]

If you like the games on PS4, buy that. If you like the games on Xbox, buy that. That's what I'd do, then actually play some of those games instead of talking numbers with a bunch of guys I've never met.

[nakamura]

My tv is only 720p!

[smouty]

Tickles video link highlights for me that there is no reason currently to move to nextgen

OMG look at how much more detailed the textures on the arm patch are

[sj33]

My tv is only 720p!

Mine too, actually! Well, 1366x768, though it does accept 1080p input.

But aside from the fact that most people here do have 1080p native TVs, and most TVs you can buy now are 1080p, I also know that my next TV (whenever that will be) will also be native 1080p.

[Brad]

Tickles video link highlights for me that there is no reason currently to move to nextgen

OMG look at how much more detailed the textures on the arm patch are

Lol. That video is only 720p and presumably you're watching at 30fps too so Youtube isn't really going to highlight the differences. Point taken however!

[dvdx2]

of course resolution is important - most people on dedicated forums like this, want the best quality version of the game. If discussions regarding resolution, frame rate, console performance, screen tear etc were removed, it would be a pretty barren place. Why would any gamer what their game to look worse?

I have finally seen some ps4 games like BF4/KZ Shadowfall running and graphically i can see what the fuss is about. Even comparing versions of COD ghosts (from ps3 - ps4) there is a massive improvement in detail, clarity and image quality.

[Lebowski]

If you like the games on PS4, buy that. If you like the games on Xbox, buy that. That's what I'd do, then actually play some of those games instead of talking numbers with a bunch of guys I've never met.

Arguing about pointless stuff with people you don't know is what internet forums where invented for, from Star Wars vs Star Trek to android vs Apple, Macs vs pc's, If you find something you like, you can bet that someone somewhere will dislike it and be willing to argue about it till the end of time.

[randombs]

I'm surprised this thread is eight pages long already. I figured once resolutiongate got its own thread people would go quiet. Like when a brat kid wants the same toy as another kid but gets bored with it once s/he has it. The thrill of the chase and all that.

But in all seriousness, and for the benefit of anyone as confused as I was about the XB1's ESRAM situation, here's a representation of the sort of image size possible on each format. Bear in mind that updates to the XB1's GPU driver should hopefully allow the third-order framebuffer tesselation(or maybe one of the pseudo-tessalatory shader effects witnessed in DX11) and an increase in quantitative colourisation pipelines(or at least making the existing ones more efficient) I've been reading about which are already par for the course on PS4:

framebluffer comparison(PS4). This is rendered internally at 5592x1024. The vast horizontal size is for multi-screen output(i.e. 3 screens, each at 1864x1024, scaled to output res t). Notice the use of bezier curves first seen on the PS2. Also, it's running at 60fps with room to spare, apparently.

framebluffer comparison(Xbox One). This is rendered at the XB1's internal resolution and then scaled to whatever the console is set to output at, just like the 360. The right dev could probably get the XB1 to display this at 1080p/60fps.

[EvilBoris]

Lol. That video is only 720p and presumably you're watching at 30fps too so Youtube isn't really going to highlight the differences. Point taken however!

it's 1080p vs 720p!

Except that video IS 1080p!