Xbox Series S/X: Thread 04

[Neon Ignition]

https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1579501001937387520?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1579508355944808449%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es2_&ref_url=

Spencer repeats an old trick and uses his shelf to reveal the Keystone streaming based console SKU that until they give an official name I will refer to as the Series E because they've used E class before and put together with S and X it equals... Fun

[Cassius_Smoke]

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Spencer repeats an old trick and uses his shelf to reveal the Keystone streaming based console SKU that until they give an official name I will refer to as the Series E because they've used E class before and put together with S and X it equals... Fun

Eh... Did we not learn from Stadia?

[Ouenben]

Eh... Did we not learn from Stadia?

Difference here is that Gamepass supplies a large catalogue of games to stream, no need to pay for a subscription then still need to buy full price games.

[Neon Ignition]

https://www.eurogamer.net/fans-think-phil-spencers-shelf-is-teasing-the-xbox-game-pass-streaming-box

Xbox suggests it's merely an old prototype

Seems a daft pandora box to open

[wakka]

It’s def Keystone. Must be coming soon. I’m intrigued to see how it does.

[kryss]

Difference here is that Gamepass supplies a large catalogue of games to stream, no need to pay for a subscription then still need to buy full price games.

Stadia Pro, the subscription you are probably talking about, was basically that too. Granted, not every game on Stadia was on Pro.

[Cassius_Smoke]

Internet connection speeds, download limits, slowdown when others are watching Netflix, router fails. How have MS solved this?

[nonny]

Internet connection speeds, download limits, slowdown when others are watching Netflix, router fails. How have MS solved this?

They haven't, they're just banking on this device being for people who don't care about that sort of thing.

That said I still don't see the point in this device when even now you can pick up a Series S with a controller for £150 second hand.

Unless this is super cheap I don't see it as being required for home use.

[wakka]

Yeah it’s going to have to have a pretty dramatically low price. £99 would be interesting.

[nonny]

I can see it as useful for travelling... tiny enough to pocket and connect to wifi when needed to get by.

But in the home? I think just pay a little more and get the Series S which does this and allows normal installs etc ...

[Cassius_Smoke]

I can see it as useful for travelling... tiny enough to pocket and connect to wifi when needed to get by.

But in the home? I think just pay a little more and get the Series S which does this and allows normal installs etc ...

That's my thoughts about streaming generally. It's fine for maybe a short burst while out and about. Of course I'd rather use a proper handheld.

[nonny]

I will say, I've just tried streaming via Edge on the Steam Deck yesterday and that was pretty amazing in terms of hiding the latency.

I know MS have embedded some game streaming upgrades directly into Edge so they're definitely working on mitigating the inherent limitations... but still you look at pricing and if this was even £75 I would still suggest anyone playing at home to save up and get the Series S instead.

The Series S is seriously the smartest move MS have made in the hardware space this gen. It's only real limitation is that 512gb onboard storage but you forgive it because it's so cheap.

[wakka]

Yeah, it's hard to see a situation in which this would be a better buy than a Series S. I'm still intrigued by the possibilities though. You could foresee another potential offering where the hardware is distributed for no upfront cost to those who agree to a year or more of GPU on a monthly basis.

[nonny]

Yeah, it's hard to see a situation in which this would be a better buy than a Series S. I'm still intrigued by the possibilities though. You could foresee another potential offering where the hardware is distributed for no upfront cost to those who agree to a year or more of GPU on a monthly basis.

I'd imagine MS might just offer this in All Access like they do the consoles now, so you'd get 2 years of game pass ultimate (needed for cloud streaming, currently) and the device for a low monthly cost.

Thing is a Series S via all access is £20.99pm and a Series X is £28.99pm. This would be less would probably be £4.99pm or even less.

[wakka]

Yep I could absolutely see this being the basic tier for All Access. Can't really see it being £4.99 per month though since GPU on its own has an RRP of £10.99 per month (or it will be, once they finally decide to close the door on people doing the £1 trick, which must be coming sooner or later - although hopefully not before I buy a Series X for Starfield).

Realistically I agree with you that this is a hard sell when the Series S exists. That machine delivers a ton of value for its price.