PlayStation 5: Thread 05

[fishbowlhead]

This is how you release a game, as studios dam well should do,

Finished data on the disk.
Cool reversible box art.
Cool little comic that's also a poster.

[Golgo]

This is how you release a game, as studios dam well should do,

Finished data on the disk.
Cool reversible box art.
Cool little comic that's also a poster.

Agreed, with the proviso that a nice, fat instruction booklet should also by rights be included (not just a one page control/button-map). In-game tutorials are the devil's work.

Phone numbers for hints 'n' tips are, I concede nowadays, probably optional.

[hudson]

Went to Smyth's to pick up astrobot and cheekily asked if they have Space Marine. The lady said "I'll check out back". Tis was at this point, I knew my big brain shopping hack had succeeded. Indeed it did!

[fishbowlhead]

Agreed, with the proviso that a nice, fat instruction booklet should also by rights be included (not just a one page control/button-map). In-game tutorials are the devil's work.

Phone numbers for hints 'n' tips are, I concede nowadays, probably optional.

Alas, tis not the case.

[Neon Ignition]

Maybe somebody at Sony will clock on to how they could have 6-7 Astro Bot/Stellar Blade scale titles for the price of say... one Concord?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://metro.co.uk/2024/02/14/no-first-party-ps5-game-sequels-april-2025-reveals-sony-20277507/&ved=2ahUKEwjvtt2Ui6-IAxW1QkEAHd-bOZgQFnoECBQQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1p3bx8DjjaUgjBw-N3Hcrb

Remember this? The clues are all right there Sony, we literally just need someone at decision making level to cotton on.

[fishbowlhead]

Maybe somebody at Sony will clock on to how they could have 6-7 Astro Bot/Stellar Blade scale titles for the price of say... one Concord?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://metro.co.uk/2024/02/14/no-first-party-ps5-game-sequels-april-2025-reveals-sony-20277507/&ved=2ahUKEwjvtt2Ui6-IAxW1QkEAHd-bOZgQFnoECBQQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1p3bx8DjjaUgjBw-N3Hcrb

Remember this? The clues are all right there Sony, we literally just need someone at decision making level to cotton on.

It seems there’s a power struggle internally on the direction of PlayStation between the traditional model of quality single player games & live service games.

Live service is doing REALLY well so far

[nonny]

It's not really rocket science there. There's a treasure trove of titles they could resurrect that don't need to be huge AAA epics with Hollywood budgets.

They don't have much diversity in the overall genres they create internally... So why not fix both and create a wider slate of titles without leaning on 3rd party deals.

We haven't seen driving games or first person shooters from Sony in a long time for instance. They also lean heavily on 3rd party for RPGs...

Hopefully they will realise GaaS is maybe a necessary evil but isn't the only focus. Hate to say it but take a leaf out of the Xbox playbook and have a range of titles across different price points and genres.

Or maybe they just think they don't need to as the market leader?

Certainly I'd love to see them release a new Motorstorm or Resistance. Heck maybe resurrect TLoU factions and put it out as a preview beta...

[fishbowlhead]

They should absolutely not take any leafs out of MS books. MS have spent 25 years trying to bury the competition by throwing infinite money at it, without spending any time to think why we buy Nintendo & Sony games in the first place, their fun, and they keep making fun games, which we continue buying, and thus the consumerism model continues and we keep getting more fun, clearly we don’t all want to rent our games.

Sony need to go back to what works for them, creating fun that we purchase, but i believe the market it going to force that on them, with gass games relegated to 3rd party lucky dice throws that stick, rather than 200m internal take all projects. Just look at Helldivers2, it sold because it’s NOT competitive and it’s just plain fun to play. NOBODY is asking for more derivative hero shooters, NOBODY.

The market is going to have a crash and rejuvenation soon anyway, it’s too expensive to make games as it is, mega projects just aren’t sustainable as EVERY project you make, there has to be small projects released that could possibly be hits, or maybe they just do ok as a good game.

[egparadigm]

What is this Live Service thing you’re talking about? It makes me think of Xbox Live on the OG Xbox. 😂

EDIT don’t worry, Google AI answered it for me. Not something that would much interest me, I have to say. Give me a game with a beginning, middle and end, please!

[fishbowlhead]

Apparently PS5 version of SpaceMarine2 is absolutely hobbled on performance, being a good 20-25% down on the SeriesX version.

This isn’t good enough devs, FIX YOUR S**T, you’re only hurting yourselves with sales.

Seems it’s just poorly optimised full stop with PC players as well having major issues with CPU’s being cooked. No HDR either is just, what? And this was after a year delay.

[hudson]

Apparently PS5 version of SpaceMarine2 is absolutely hobbled on performance, being a good 20-25% down on the SeriesX version.

This isn’t good enough devs, FIX YOUR S**T, you’re only hurting yourselves with sales.

Seems it’s just poorly optimised full stop with PC players as well having major issues with CPU’s being cooked. No HDR either is just, what? And this was after a year delay.

I'm about a 3rd through the campaign, played 2 Operations and did quite a bit of PVP. Running in 'Speed' mode (performance) it has ran absolutely fine for me. Maybe there are game crippling areas later on?

[fishbowlhead]

I'm about a 3rd through the campaign, played 2 Operations and did quite a bit of PVP. Running in 'Speed' mode (performance) it has ran absolutely fine for me. Maybe there are game crippling areas later on?

Maybe it’s been patched already, I was reading reports of performance mode dropping to 35 frequently and res mode being nigh unplayable.

[hudson]

I could happily play in Quality mode. I tried it a little, but once you've tried 'Speed' mode, there's no going back. I don't think I've seen a patch notification yet.

[nonny]

They should absolutely not take any leafs out of MS books. MS have spent 25 years trying to bury the competition by throwing infinite money at it, without spending any time to think why we buy Nintendo & Sony games in the first place, their fun, and they keep making fun games, which we continue buying, and thus the consumerism model continues and we keep getting more fun, clearly we don’t all want to rent our games.

I'm just suggesting they need more diversity in their first party output in terms of game size/genre, something that Xbox has done pretty well overall.

https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2024/09/sony-its-massively-important-ps-studios-develops-games-in-various-genres

Seems some people agree. I would personally much rather see Sony do another VR Astrobot or even an Astrobot kart game than another GOW.

Hell do all that ..

[hudson]

I would have loved another VR Astro. That game is up there as one of gaming's mind blowing moments for me. I've sold my VR now, so I don't want them to waste Asobi's time