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    Making a flash-based and HDD-based version of the touch would be even more confusing I think. I agree though, there's already more than enough, perhaps this is the limit though. It's really aiming towards those that are interested in the iPhone but don't want the phone aspect, people like me I guess!

    The division is fairly clear on the website though, average consumers aren't thick, the person they're buying for (if it's for someone else) will just have to give them the name of the iPod, that much should be simple. If they request a touch but feel it's too expensive they can go for a cheaper version of the iPod, now there's only one that doesn't do video, so all is well.

    £129 for the 8GB Nano, add £70 for the 8GB touch, I think that's reasonable considering the extras (bigger screen, touch-screen, wi-fi, calender etc), it's more of a cut-down Mac, it looks lovely. I really hope someone hacks it or just develops a crap load of awesome apps for it!

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      Must admit I was a bit annoyed at not havingcloser to 40Gb on the Touch. 16Gb is a bit small.

      But I think all it takes is a bit of re-training on how to organize your music collection.

      Sort out your playlists better, then synchronise it daily/weekly whatever according to your mood.

      It is nice to carry around 40/60/80/160Gb but for me, I spend all my time on shuffle and a lot of the time I skip tracks to get something I really want to listen to a that point.

      The touch looks like it works very well as a portable video device, so may be good for those long plane journeys.

      Maybe it was Apple's thinking that the suckers amongst us (i.e. me) would buy an 80Gb classic for everyday use, and a Touch for best????

      Either way - Christmas is gonna be expensive

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        Originally posted by billy_dimashq View Post
        i love my shuffle, it's my main ipod. i have a 30gb video (my music collection is 20gb so i'm good for storage for now at least) which i take on long journeys and holidays, but otherwise it usually just sits in the drawer awaiting its next mission....
        I have to agree.I bought a shuffle just to use at the gym, but I use my shuffle far more then my main iPod, just because it is soo simple. I can just clip in on to my shirt and forget about it. No fussing about in my pocket trying to click forward or back, the controls are soo simple and accessible. There is quite a loss of features incomparison, but the simplicty makes it worth it.

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          lol i bought my original one (512mb usb stick) for the gym too, but it bounced around too much on the treadmill so i gave up with it. shuffle fairs a bit better in that respect, but it's still flown off a few times

          and the shuffle's the coolest-looking mp3 player you could wear ever

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            Bigger ipod touches will be out after Christmas. It is a pattern all 'new' ipods seem to follow. Release small version before Christmas, it will sell because it has got amazing new features. Release big ones after Christmas to drive sales after the post Christmas blues.

            Worst thing is, people will re-buy ipods simply to have the lastest.

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              went to buy a touch at lunch time but bullring apple only had nanos in so picked one up, cant believe how cool they are, millon times better than my old 20gig iPod. I know people go on about storage etc but for me the idea is this is something to wander round with listening to music and to be honest 8gig is more than enough IMHO. Look so much nicer in your hand than on the site too great value IMHO lovethe coverflow feature. not downloaded any vids yet but screen etc looks good enough

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                Touch's not shipping until the 28th unfortunately

                I read that the cover flow is quite jerky on the nanos? Is it? Or is it quite usable?

                Btw, I think there's an Apple store opening in Touchwood, Solihull too soon! Mad for 'em round here!

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                  Originally posted by debug77 View Post
                  Touch's not shipping until the 28th unfortunately

                  I read that the cover flow is quite jerky on the nanos? Is it? Or is it quite usable?

                  Btw, I think there's an Apple store opening in Touchwood, Solihull too soon! Mad for 'em round here!
                  No it works fine IMHO, although im not the fussiest bod in the world to be honest, once i saw the didi box, how shiny and bright it was it was in the bag really, odd thing was they didnt have them on display but were behind the counter so actually had to ask for one of the new ones, the display models were the old spec ones. Hope if you went in and asked for one of them they pointed you in the right direction.

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                    Originally posted by 'Press Start To Begin' View Post
                    Worst thing is, people will re-buy ipods simply to have the lastest.
                    Isnt it true? People buy iPods like their old ones are going to rot

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                      Originally posted by Resonance View Post
                      Isnt it true? People buy iPods like their old ones are going to rot
                      Tell me about it. Its because Apple cleverly markets them like a fashion accessory. Also because of the 'throw away' society in which we live people are made to feel like there year old ipod is now redundant.

                      Thats the reason I still use this


                      'joke'

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                        I know lots of people with old iPods, so I guess it depends what type of people you know.

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                          I sold mine on pronto and glad I did so, as I got quite decent money for them and can upgrade without losing any more money via depreciation. I'll probably just end up with a touch, maybe a classic 160GB but more than likely will be more than happy with touching!

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                            I've not really paid much attention, does the new model of the "iPod Classic" that comes out this month play videos as well as music, or would I have to go for the new iPod touch if I wanted that? I noticed it's colour where the old one wasn't.

                            I'm not hugely fussed, just wondering.

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                              The iPod Classic does play videos. However, unlike the previous two versions, Apple has locked the 'tv out' function. In the last two, you just plug in a lead into the headphone socket and off you go. The new one is capable of doing that but they've locked the feature so you have to go through another Apple product (like the dock for example) for it to work. Dirty feckers.

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                                Jebus - noticed what's colour? The main iPods (and indeed the Nanos) have been in colour for a few generations.

                                Dogg, I didn't even know you could use the headphone socket as a TV out anyway, is it a simple headphone jack to auxillary white, red and yellow? Groovy if so, but annoying as I just sold my 80GB!

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