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    Yeah I've always gone for the screen size but as you said when you got yours they don't look so big in teh shop amongst the others but once it's in your living room JESUS !!

    Still, the 46" does look mighty fine

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      Originally posted by Yoshimax-UK
      Yeah I've always gone for the screen size but as you said when you got yours they don't look so big in teh shop amongst the others but once it's in your living room JESUS !!

      Still, the 46" does look mighty fine
      saying taht ive noticed that this effect wears off after a couple of weeks/months as im now thinking the 40" would have been nice

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        Originally posted by oblivion_6
        saying taht ive noticed that this effect wears off after a couple of weeks/months as im now thinking the 40" would have been nice
        And if have 40" you want 60" its just the way of the world.

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          I've recently received a Toshiba 32wlt66 after reading nothing but glowing reviews and can't stand the motion blur. Is this common to all LCDs? If so I can't understand how anyone can put up with it - textures change to a smear when you look around!

          After much moaning to John Lewis i've been promised a full refund and am tempted to try out a Samsung to see if it fairs any better. Does anyone with one of these sets notice much blur/smear?

          Cheers, H

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            Yeah, it's horrible!

            The Samsung is the same and so is the Panasonic, but better than the Tosh and the Samsung.

            It is as if all the fine detail is smudged as soon as there is movement, LCD has a long way to come yet.

            Have you considered plasma, it has its faults too, but far better than LCD overall.

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              It is refreshing to find someone who sees these problems too. I've been frequenting various forums and virtually eveyone claims they see no smearing on their lcds - I thought I was going a little loopy at one point.

              I have considered a plasma, but with max budget of ?1000 a decent one is quite hard to come by (i'm also a little wary of burn in)

              I may end up going for the new Samsung HD crt now. tbh id rather have a whole crap load of geometry problems than put up gaming on an lcd again - at times I felt ill. This wasn't just with games either, but in movies too

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                I think it is a case of 'Emporers New Clothes'!

                Not everyone wants to see the negatives after spending loads of money. I just cut my losses and sell it on if I don't like it and start again. I had a Panny plasma, sold it fo the NEC, hated it, sold that and lost ?600 in under a week, got the Pioneer, hated that and got rid of that in 3 days and ended up back with another Panny PHD plasma. 2 weeks and over a grand out of pocket but happy again!

                The 42" PHD8 is under ?1600 at av-sales with interest free credit, go on, get the best flat screen there is and pay the extra ?600 in 12 months! They are virtually burn proof too!

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                  Tempting

                  Do plasma screens have any blur/smearing at all? What don't you like about the screen?

                  We'd only be sitting about 7' from the set, 42" may be a tad large

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                    I am 8ft from a 50" and it is too small!

                    I like pretty much everything on the Panasonic commercial range. Only thing that pisses me off is no native resolution over hdmi at 50hz. But apart from that it is great, and it does all the video reolutions so you can't be too picky I guess. And just about every other screen converts 50hz to 60hz anyway, so the fact you can do straight 50hz with 576i/p, 480i/p, 720p and 1080i is a bonus.
                    The panny looks like a big crt, which is hig praise indeed, I have onwed crts from sony, B&O, Toshiba, Philips and Loewe and the Panny destroys them all, I can't say that about any other flat panel.

                    Also because it is a monitor and doesn't have big speakers on it the 42" version is about the same size as a 36" crt to look at!

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                      It sounds great, but the misses would twist my nuts off in the night if I spent ?1600 on a tele when there's various things that need doing in the home.

                      The 'HD Ready' Samsung crt is arriving next wednesday. It's half the price of the lcd I returned, which will leaves enough for a decent dvd player and a wii. If the geometry issues aren't too bad i'll hang on to it for a few years and save for something really beastly

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                        Originally posted by H-Man
                        The 'HD Ready' Samsung crt is arriving next wednesday. It's half the price of the lcd I returned, which will leaves enough for a decent dvd player and a wii. If the geometry issues aren't too bad i'll hang on to it for a few years and save for something really beastly
                        I hate to be the bringer of bad news, but it seems like the geometry is rather crap:



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                          That is rather bad. Any reviews or forum impressions of this on the net. I was looking to move back to CRT with regards to HD, and this seemed like the obvious choice to make.

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                            Geometry is awful on that!

                            That would drive me insane.

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                              geometry has to be fiddleable in the service menu.... there's no way it can't be.

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                                You are opening a whole can of worms there though, alot of crt sets have an overall geometry, ie you change the geometry at 576i and it also affects 480p, 720p, 1080i etc. etc.

                                So you get 720p looing great and then go back to watch the TV and it looks like a pirate copy of Jaws 3D!

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