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[Champloo]

Thats rediculous, if I send recorded and have proof of postage, will paypal protect me?

And what if I don't have the money in my account, which I don't at the moment?

[MattyD]

Thats rediculous, if I send recorded and have proof of postage, will paypal protect me?

And what if I don't have the money in my account, which I don't at the moment?

If it was sent recorded you can obtain a copy of the signiature from Royal Mail customer services on 08457 740 740. At the very least they should be able to provide you with a name.

Also, make hard copies of any PayPal receipts, your account history etc etc, and if the worst comes to the worst you can have him for theft / obtaining property by deception

[EDDIE M0NS00N]

I'm in the same position as Champloo at the mo too. Just sold a monitor & will be posting it by Special Delivery.

1 question: If I withdraw all my PP cash to my bank account & at some point down the line the buyer tries to reclaim it or used a fraudulent card can PP take the money back from my bank account if my PP account is empty?

[buster_broon]

I'm in the same position as Champloo at the mo too. Just sold a monitor & will be posting it by Special Delivery.

1 question: If I withdraw all my PP cash to my bank account & at some point down the line the buyer tries to reclaim it or used a fraudulent card can PP take the money back from my bank account if my PP account is empty?

i've heard horror stories that they have

but its against the law for them to take the funds from your bank account

they will however stick your account in a negative balance with a possible visit from baillifs

[EDDIE M0NS00N]

i've heard horror stories that they have

but its against the law for them to take the funds from your bank account

they will however stick your account in a negative balance with a possible visit from baillifs

Bloody Hell!!, how are PP/eBay allowed to get away with this?
Are they above the law or summat?

Hey buster have u had any experience regarding this situation?
Just wondering after your reply.

[buster_broon]

Hey buster have u had any experience regarding this situation?
Just wondering after your reply.

no i havent matey

but there is a thread over at rllmuk where a guy sold something and the guy left him feedback, 3 months or so later he filed with his credit card company that the item went missing and the credit card company took the money from paypal

to which the paypal responded by recouping the money from the original seller

he refused and decided to just leave it, i think he is now paying something a month to them as the bailliffs came to seize goods

click here to find more horror stories

paypal will never be out of money, that link has a forum where they all discuss what paypal have done to them

[buster_broon]

rllmuk

here is the thread i was on about

[EDDIE M0NS00N]

I really feel for that guy mourinho. I had 2 fraudulent payments from buyers between Oct & Dec last yr. Both were items paid for with a CC but because PP dont have a system in place for this kind of thing by the time PP had gotten back to me about it I had already posted the items out. Unfortunaltey all I had was proof of postage so I was ****ed (I always use a trackable method now). 1 buyer closed his ebay account, but the other 1 I managed to persuade in paying up via a bank transfer because I threatened him with the cops for fraud.

Thanx for the info buster!!!.
I'll have to look into that 'Real Merchant Account' in more depth b4 I make a decision.

[EDDIE M0NS00N]

****in hell!! I just read morinho's last post & he's paying that £400 back @ £40 a month as it was passed on to a debt collector!!

I've got to find an alternative to PP ASAP!!

WANKERS!!!!

[toythatkills]

What a ****ing joke. I can't believe this is allowed to happen.

These people and these people should really be complained to in any instance of this kind of thing happening, the more people that complain the more difference it'll make. And the police.

What about BBC Watchdog, even? They'd be very interested in this kind of story.

[ascender]

Luckily I've not had any problems with eBay/PayPal in terms of fraud, but I'm getting really hacked off by this thing where people wait for you to leave feedback before they'll do the same for you. Seems to just be a way for sellers to guarantee you'll leave them good feedback.

I pay for 99% of my items immediately with PayPal and as far as I'm concerned, that should force the seller to leave feedback for me straight away.

[Concrete donkey]

Luckily I've not had any problems with eBay/PayPal in terms of fraud, but I'm getting really hacked off by this thing where people wait for you to leave feedback before they'll do the same for you. Seems to just be a way for sellers to guarantee you'll leave them good feedback.

I pay for 99% of my items immediately with PayPal and as far as I'm concerned, that should force the seller to leave feedback for me straight away.

At the shop I work at we always return feedback given and don't give it before hand. This is partly due to what you described, but its more of a case that we don't consider the transaction complete until we know the item is safely in the customers hand and that they are satisfied.

How can we give accurate positive feedback to someone after they paid, without knowing if they're going to, when not in to sign for the item, can not be asked to go to their local depot to pick it up or arrange redelivery and complain one month down the line that they never recieved there item ? Giving feeback when knowing the customer is happy with the transaction is perfectly reasonable in my opinion.

[EDDIE M0NS00N]

What about BBC Watchdog, even? They'd be very interested in this kind of story.

Its funny u should mention Watchdog actually. I remember last yr they did a piece on sellers ripping off buyers with dodgy merchandise. Since then it seems as though eBay/PP has allowed buyers to get get away with murder, while the sellers get the **** end of the stick.

IMO there should be a fair rules system & buyers & sellers should be treated equally.

[EDDIE M0NS00N]

At the shop I work at we always return feedback given and don't give it before hand. This is partly due to what you described, but its more of a case that we don't consider the transaction complete until we know the item is safely in the customers hand and that they are satisfied.

How can we give accurate positive feedback to someone after they paid, without knowing if they're going to, when not in to sign for the item, can not be asked to go to their local depot to pick it up or arrange redelivery and complain one month down the line that they never recieved there item ? Giving feeback when knowing the customer is happy with the transaction is perfectly reasonable in my opinion.

Amen brother!!
If a buyer is just being an arsehole (I seem to come across more & more each day!!), or pays & then makes a chargeback/fraudulent payment at some point later down the line, or is not leaving any feedback then why should I leave positive fb as a seller.

[ascender]

At the shop I work at we always return feedback given and don't give it before hand. This is partly due to what you described, but its more of a case that we don't consider the transaction complete until we know the item is safely in the customers hand and that they are satisfied.

How can we give accurate positive feedback to someone after they paid, without knowing if they're going to, when not in to sign for the item, can not be asked to go to their local depot to pick it up or arrange redelivery and complain one month down the line that they never recieved there item ? Giving feeback when knowing the customer is happy with the transaction is perfectly reasonable in my opinion.

Because as a reliable buyer (as should be evident from my feedback), if I buy an item and pay straight away, that's me kept up my side of the bargain. You're always going to get a small percentage of idiots, but at the moment it seems that sellers are waiting to see how buyers rate them before deciding how they're going to do it.

eBay feedback seems to have turned in to a tit-for-tat system. You're not happy with our service? Well screw you, I'm going to slag you off in return.

Its a shame that eBay has gone so far downhill over the last few years.