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    New York has a population of about 20 million though, and England/Wales is only like 60 million so really we have more per person than they do.

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      To all those criticising the police response what you have to understand is that the police are not free to do what they want. There are very strict rules and regulations that curtail why they can and can't do. They are doing the best they can under such limitations.As strongly as you may feel about the situation try to imagine what those emotions must feel like in the chest of people who dedicate their lives to trying to make society a safer place rather than sitting on the sideline.

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        That may be so, but it doesn't excuse the slow response. You would think there would be plans in place for situations like this, rather than just letting it run it's course.

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          Originally posted by Ady View Post
          Saw an interesting tweet from Speech Debelle on her page, which kind of relates to the bad parenting thing somewhat:She has a point, tbh. :/
          I know you were just posting that to illustrate your wider point and I could be reading wrong what she was saying, but I find the fact that she would dress this up as an issue of absent fathers being utterly stupid and borderline reprehensible.There's as many deadbeat moms out there to equal the number of deadbeat dads.

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            Originally posted by Skull Commander View Post
            That may be so, but it doesn't excuse the slow response. You would think there would be plans in place for situations like this, rather than just letting it run it's course.
            Obviously there are, armchair experts everywhere you look these days.Lack of investment plus heavyweight procedures designed to protect these peoples civil liberties are the problem here not the officers.

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                http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/7337

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                Convicted London rioters should loose all benefits."

                This would have looked better if he'd written "lose" not "loose"


                I'm also curious if people accused of robbing shops in Birmingham would be daft enough to turn up to court wearing an Armani suit with Adidas trainers. Oh, and have buttery smooth skin...

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                  Originally posted by Phar View Post


                  That's years old that is.

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                    Originally posted by abigsmurf View Post
                    That's years old that is.
                    First time i've seen it. Did anyone see "Big Jim" getting interviewed on Sky earlier? f*cking hell they couldn't wait to get rid of him quick enough

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                      Brother is down staying with me for work and is in Hackney doing a job today, he's just been told to withdraw and get out of there as it has just started kicking off again.

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                        It's quite amusing that the BBC championed internet technology and social networking during all these arab uprisings saying how good it was. Letting people coordinate protests and get round various barriers put in place by their governments. It's certainly worked well here too.

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                          The BBC has spoken to two girls that took part in Monday night's riots in Croydon, who boasted that they were showing police and "the rich" that "we can do what we want".


                          The idiots are at large.

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                            The media love to give names to these events like "The Arab Spring". What's this one going to be called? I vote for The Scally Summer

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                              The Scummer Supermarket Sweep.

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                                Originally posted by Fader209 View Post
                                http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14458424

                                The idiots are at large.
                                They keep playing that on Five Live, it's infuriating. They don't know why the **** they're rioting.

                                "We're doing it against the government or summat!"
                                "YEAH! The conservatives or whoever it is!"

                                Then basically say they're doing it because they can get away with it, which is what we all knew anyway.

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