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    Originally posted by davidholliss
    have got PGR2 yeah, so wonder which representation is more accurate, believed the PGR2 version to be fairly accurate .....
    The GT4 version just "feels" better.

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      Originally posted by master chief
      Just found this:

      evo magazine:

      "The effort clearly paid off, for in a typically exhaustive validation exercise, a test driver with 15 years' experience drove an R34 Nissan Skyline GT-R around the real circuit and GT4's Nordschleife recreation, and acieved lap times (8mins 15sec) that varied by just 1 per cent. He also commented that the GT4 Skyline and circuit were so realistic he could experiment with driving techniques that would be too dangerious to risk in real life."
      Having seen a side by side video of the first few kilometres from real life and the game I would say it looks very close in GT4.

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        Originally posted by Ravon
        Are the people with the logitech Pro using the full 900 degrees action for gt4... is it that good..?
        Damn good and far more enjoyable with it, though it does take some adjusting.

        I find you have to concentrate alot more.

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          Strange really. You get more turns lock to lock on the wheel like a real road car, but a race car is more likely than not going to have more direct steering. Pity the wheel doesn't set up the degrees of rotation accoding to the type of car you are driving.

          Having said that it is a real experience fighting with the steering at over 250 mph on the Mulsanne straight.
          Last edited by Bassman; 08-03-2005, 10:31.

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            Are the motors more powerful in the Pro than the normal driving force ?
            This should be my last question

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              No idea, but they are very noticeable at speed. That plus the bumpiness of the track.
              Last edited by Bassman; 09-03-2005, 06:33.

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                Originally posted by Ravon
                Are the motors more powerful in the Pro than the normal driving force ?
                This should be my last question
                yes edit - beter make it clear that i don't have a pro but am quite sure it has a more powerful motor.

                also i don't think real racing cars have 900 degree steering wheel rotation?
                Last edited by msm13579; 08-03-2005, 10:59.

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                  That is what I said earlier. The 900 degree rotation is fine for a road car. It is a pity the wheel is not programmable to swap between 200 (or whatever) and 900 dependent on the car.

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                    See you boys talking about the wheel...

                    I have the OIfficial GT3 Logitech Force Feedback wheel from my GT3 days. Anyone using this wheel for it? Looking to get the game and just want to know if this wheel will add as much as it did to GT3's play??

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                      I got the GT4 this weekend and I?m very pleased with it.
                      Unfortunately I made a mistake and bought the Caterham Fire Blade (or whatever) for 60.000 credits, just to find out that I cannot use this car in any of the events. (and I get only 13.000 credits should I sell it again)
                      They should have included some kind of description like in GT3, or some notice that you cannot take part in events with this car.
                      It would also been helpful to tell what the differences between a V-spec and b-spec (or similar) Skyline models are. I know they vary in weight but I would like to know more there.

                      However, I?m very surprised how much fun the photo travel mode is.
                      The graphical quality of the backdrops and the car itself is stunning.
                      I think it?s a very original idea and one that should really be in every serious driving game.

                      And of course, an in-car perspective would have been great - not with all the fittings, just behind the windscreen outside or inside of the car to get a better impression of really being in that car. (and some roadsters already have all the controls and instruments modelled)

                      As expected, the DFP wheel works excellent here.
                      Whenever an opponent touches my car?s tail, I will know it from the force feedback response of the wheel.
                      It really became part of the experience and helps me to evaluate what the car is doing and how to prevent it from getting out of control.
                      However, I set the FF effects to the lower settings, so it doesn?t get too much in the way of smooth driving.

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                        That would be the old Driving Force wouldn't it? That is one of the specific wheel options in the game so it ought to be as good as it was in GT3.

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                          worthy of a post in all GT4 topics;

                          Quote:
                          "Will find out what the GT4 Nurburgring record is, no offence but someone must have not given up until lthe magical 5 minutes was broken ....."

                          5 minutes of searching and found a vid of guy doing the 'Ring in 4:54.282



                          enjoy

                          only 10mb by the way
                          Last edited by VR46; 08-03-2005, 13:25.

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                            Traction control, boo!!

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                              my first few hours with the US NTSC version and i must say am pretty disappointed with the game so far.

                              ARCADE MODE is a bad joke! i had a few runs with a RUF 911 and the car just refuses to take grip and to turn in into corners! i saw myself turning into cornes at city limit speed. that's ridiculous!

                              GT MODE seems ok, but i lost all my progress while doing the B license test! it seems the autosave function doesn't work the way i thought it should!

                              480p & 1080i support is of the poorest quality i have ever seen. vertical lines like an EM interference grid all over the screen. in 1080i it's subtle but in 480p it's very obvious and annoying. the graphics in 480i are lacking detail and are looking washed out.

                              the game can get only better for me - hopefully.

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                                Strange nobody else has complained about the high res modes. I belong to various American GT Forums.

                                What were you doing with the memory card to cause problems? I am up to day 360 or so on the American versions without a problem.

                                I've never noticed any differences in Physics between Arcade and GT Mode. Not tried the RUF though.

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