Darksiders (PS3/360)

[djtickle]

Just completed this with my stats below, and a nice 710 GS out of it too to boot.

Total GAme Time 14:48:22
Time in Combat 02:58:54
Total Kills 1852
Number of Deaths 19
Distance Traveled 193.61 Miles
Total Souls Collected 42517
Highest Combo 35
Demon Blood Splilled 4020.23 Gallons

Really really good game, came out of no were for me. The ending is fantastic just hope theres a 2nd

[Neon Ignition]

Started this last night and after my first few hours of play my impressions so far are ho-hum. It's a little better than I expected but still nothing great, feels like it needs more polish.

So far I'm finding the lock-on to be detrimental to combat as it's mimicking Zelda's system without any of the balancing. Free forming it is much easier. Visually it's solid enough but the art design is really dull and uninspired as with the story so far.

Peeps views seem to be strong so it may well pick up as I go on and unlock more abilities etc but it's bordering on being an AC2 style chore game at the moment. Hope it recovers soon.

[FelixofMars]

Something is wrong here, I have half you kills 6 times the deaths and half the distance travelled but a combo of 46 and I haven't got past the first dungeon

Though I think I know why, I read the thread and people where saying Apocalyptic was essentially hard and the medium setting was too easy. LIES. Going back to Normal.

I blame Zero9X!

Just completed this with my stats below, and a nice 710 GS out of it too to boot.

Total GAme Time 14:48:22
Time in Combat 02:58:54
Total Kills 1852
Number of Deaths 19
Distance Traveled 193.61 Miles
Total Souls Collected 42517
Highest Combo 35
Demon Blood Splilled 4020.23 Gallons

Really really good game, came out of no were for me. The ending is fantastic just hope theres a 2nd

[SuperBeatBoy]

lol. Seriously i didn't have a problem with it.

The only problem i have is that you can't move around while blocking, like i said previously. The blocking sucks.

[FelixofMars]

I must say that up to a point it was fine, it was only when I tried to tackle large enemies. I am guessing that one of their mega attacks doesn't typically do one and a half health damage to your life bar. I still haven't found enough to upgrade that yet.

[Uli]

talked to friend about this game yesterday and he compared it to Zelda actually. so what about it?

[MisterBubbles]

Well the game may start off kinda slow, but once you reach your 2nd or 3rd dungeon you'll be a bad @$$ tooled up killing machine and this game gets better as it goes on, so everybody stick with it, you'll be glad you did, and 32 quid now thats a bargain honest as i said way earlier in the thread, BUY this game NOW.

[Jebus]

Doesn't surprise me. As nonny said, most players probably can't look beyond Bayonetta's Japaneseness and see what a wonderful game it is.

A game that deserves a 10/10 has to be perfect in all departments.

Whilst I won't argue that Bayonetta has wonderful combat, the narative is hilariously bad.

Also, in my opinion, people being unable to looking past it's obvious Eastern leanings is not the fault of the people, but the fault of the game.

[Brats]

A game that deserves a 10/10 has to be perfect in all departments.

This is a debate that will rage forever, but I completely disagree with that. No game is 'perfect', which means logically that no game could ever score 10/10, which makes the score redundant.

People not being willing to look past it's Eastern leanings is a fault of the people. If you've at least played the demo and think 'this isn't for me' then fair enough, but if anyone dismisses a game on style alone without playing it, then that's daft imo.

That applies equally to those that look at some Western games and dismiss them without playing them. If some anime loving japanophile dismisses Darksiders (yay! bring it back on topic) for looking too Western, is that the fault of Darksiders? Or is that person just being a spanner?

[Jebus]

How is it a fault of the people if the game isn't designed to their preferences? It's not just "japanesey", it's overt about it, it's in your face and I believe it's designed at a very specific audience. Moreover, I've not heard anyone dismissing it based on it's style alone anyway!

Okay, 10/10 may not be "perfect" and I confess I was perhaps over-enthusiastic in saying so, but it has to be the "highest possible reccomendation" available. A 10/10 for me is a game that almost everyone universally says is the bees knees.

The point for me is that I've played a handful of 10/10 games in my life, and I don't think Bayonetta comes anywhere close to them. Narrative in a game is important for me, and that game borrows from everywhere (I know it's intentional about it, but hearing her shout "ACTON A GO GO BABY" didn't make me laugh, it made me cringe) doesn't do it for me narrative wise.

Darksiders is the better game IN MY OPINION, it might have on single aspect that is "perfect" but it's a sum of it's parts, whereas I feel Bayonetta is the combat and that's it.

[FelixofMars]

Well I started again and things have gone much faster, I am still getting one hit killed by the big fire guys. I am not even sure how it works that out though as I had still one health bar and was feeling pretty confident that normal was much easier. So Picked up a car ready to lob it and the big fire guys comes stomping along so I throw the car as I do he does a charge attack and I die.

Thing is even them doing a charge attack before that maybe takes one quarter off so I am a bit miffed where the extra damage came from? Exploding damage from the car I was lobbing?

Oh well it seems more doable and one life in 2 hours is better than 70 in 6-7hours. Trying to regain my trust in this game. Still feeling bored with the hack and slash element though. I almost feel that they are just filling up the empty space with spawning enemies would be nice to just take in the world for a change.

This is part of the reason I switched down as there was a bit that made me call it quits. I think you beat a subboss and there is a tiny room with a sword in and some guys. I killed those and went for the sword and then more guys.

I killed those and then got the sword and what next... more guys. I was literally WTF you are kidding me. After getting cut down a few dozen times I started a new save.

The puzzles do help break it up and they seem to be reality competent as a Zelda homage. I enjoyed the bomb flower ones.

[Brats]

How is it a fault of the people if the game isn't designed to their preferences? It's not just "japanesey", it's overt about it, it's in your face and I believe it's designed at a very specific audience. Moreover, I've not heard anyone dismissing it based on it's style alone anyway!

I've heard people avoid it because of its style without trying it and this is clearly the point Charlie was making. I don't agree it's designed for a specific audience, as loads of people who have bothered to try it have loved it even though they it thought it wouldn't be their type of game. It's one of those rare games that has grown an appeal outside of its fanbase.

Okay, 10/10 may not be "perfect" and I confess I was perhaps over-enthusiastic in saying so, but it has to be the "highest possible reccomendation" available. A 10/10 for me is a game that almost everyone universally says is the bees knees.

Surely a 10/10 game is one where the heavens open and a bolt of lighting comes down and strikes you smack in the forehead with its brilliance. What I mean is, what other people think of a game is irrelevant.

The point for me is that I've played a handful of 10/10 games in my life, and I don't think Bayonetta comes anywhere close to them. Narrative in a game is important for me, and that game borrows from everywhere (I know it's intentional about it, but hearing her shout "ACTON A GO GO BABY" didn't make me laugh, it made me cringe) doesn't do it for me narrative wise.

Darksiders is the better game IN MY OPINION, it might have on single aspect that is "perfect" but it's a sum of it's parts, whereas I feel Bayonetta is the combat and that's it.

Erm...I'm not arguing whether you like Bayonetta or not, or whether you like Darksiders more. I'm just saying a 10/10 game isn't perfect (I agree I've only played a handful that I consider 10/10) and that if someone ignores a quality title based on style alone (regardless of how overt that style is) or makes assumptions about a game that's getting some serious critical acclaim, then that's daft.

It's like not wanting to see Up because you don't like kiddy films.

[Charlie]

A game that deserves a 10/10 has to be perfect in all departments.

Whilst I won't argue that Bayonetta has wonderful combat, the narative is hilariously bad.

Also, in my opinion, people being unable to looking past it's obvious Eastern leanings is not the fault of the people, but the fault of the game.

I didn't make reference to whether or not Bayonetta deserves a 10/10. I actually think people get too hung up on scores; what matters is it's an excellent game. A nine-excellent or ten-excellent, doesn't matter.

As for Bayonetta's narrative, yeah, it's silly, completely over the top and frequently cliched but, truth be told, I prefer it's kind of narrative to, say, that of Halo or Gears of War which try to be cool and mature but, really, are unintelligent and pretentious. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate excellent narrative (Half Life, GTA and Bioshock's for example) but if a developer can't do excellent narrative, and few can, I'd sooner they stick to daft, tongue-in-cheek narrative like Bayonetta's.

Your last point - as Brats says, it's every bit the fault of a person if they are unable to look past a game's cultural style. And I'm not singling out Western players when I say that as I believe the Japanese are even worse when it comes to rejecting Western-style videogames, regardless of their quality.

[Robster]

Help!

->Open Spoiler<-

"Im stuck in the highest room in the hollows. I have the tremor gauntlet and went back to the start of the house. I went up stairs and smashed the blue ice on the door and I evetually arrived in this circular room. On your map if you select the highest level it will highlight the room.

There is a cog wheel stuck in ice, I have found the dormant bomb hive, what I cant to do is make a line of bombs quick enough to blow up the red demon growth which I hope will then allow me to smash the ice holding the cog wheel.

Am I going the wrong way about it , or am I just to slow when making my line of bombs ??"

These parts of the game are driving me nuts - in a good way of course lol

[saturn-gamer]

->Open Spoiler<-

gaspipes is all I say

Its a fun puzzle, work it out.