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    OMFG. It's like the BBC actually have a vendetta against anyone and everyone on this board. They continue to deliberately bait us! </nerd rage>

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      The room thing is a major concern for me too. Six foot is just in front of my sofa, which sounds okay-ish for single player games, but multiplayer sounds like it just wouldn't work. Part of the big sell for Kinnect is the ease of use - no clutter, no controllers, just go! If I have to move the sofa, that part of it is completely lost.

      In theory it's not a disaster, but given that the launch games are all family games that will be fun in short bursts, having to lug a sofa around every time is an obstacle too many.

      A shame, as I really like a lot of what I've seen from the Giant Bomb Quick Looks and other videos. A number of the games have a lot of charm.

      Out of interest, does anyone know if the distance issue is down to the low res of the camera? If they brought out an upgraded Kinnect in the future with a better camera, would the distance thing go away or is it just an inherent issue with the tech?

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        There is an inherent link between focal distance, sensor size and angle of view - higher pixel count wouldn't really help for that. A bigger physical sensor might however.

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          The distance is the thing which rules this right out for me too. My gaming room just doesn't have that kind of space available.

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            We'll see how it goes later, I've barely got any space, but as I'm not really interested in standing up games it's more of a future investment for other titles. Of course I'll be trying to get kinect adventures to work though

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              anyones order from Game turned up?

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                not yet mate, how do you even track the parcel anyway?

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                  parcel farce it think, mine has had no update since 1 am at one of the big sorting office hubs

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                    it must arrive today though surely? I know Parcel Force delivery anytime during the day...

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                      would the kinnects have the same barcodes on the box, thinking of taking 1 bought elsewhere back to game instore

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                        Mine arrived from gameplay at 9.00 today got lucky, must have been the first delivery, never had a tracking number given to me, and i dont like parcel force, to many cock ups in the past , but im just relieved i got mine. although had to go straight to work so havent opened it

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                          I see the rumour that Kinnect games will be cheaper didn't materialise. They are all ?39.99 in HMV.

                          Space issue aside, part of me would still like to buy the thing, but that's sealed the deal for me now. I'd want at least two extra games to justify the purchase. HMV are discounting by ?10 if you buy a Kinnect and a game together, but that's still ?200 for essentially three games.

                          So no Kinnect for me until it's either tweaked to be fine in a smaller space, it's cheap enough as a package not to really matter or there is a killer single player game I can't live without. Shame as the family would love it, but we still have the Wii and Rock Band.

                          Even if Kinnect sells well, I can't see some of these games being the like the evergreen Nintendo titles. Some of them will be ?10 after six months.

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                            My game one just came, let's heap on some more negativity. Wall mount or floor stand sold separately!

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                              Originally posted by yesteryeargames View Post
                              anyones order from Game turned up?
                              Originally posted by Shozuki View Post
                              not yet mate, how do you even track the parcel anyway?
                              Originally posted by yesteryeargames View Post
                              parcel farce it think, mine has had no update since 1 am at one of the big sorting office hubs
                              Originally posted by Shozuki View Post
                              it must arrive today though surely? I know Parcel Force delivery anytime during the day...
                              My Gamestation, part of Game group, bundle was shipped on Saturday, but Parcelforce held it until yesterday and it arrived this morning via their Express 24 service.

                              Originally posted by Brats View Post
                              I see the rumour that Kinnect games will be cheaper didn't materialise. They are all &#163;39.99 in HMV.
                              Apparently Tesco are selling Kinect titles for &#163;30 in-store, but I can't confirm his myself.

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                                My Dance Central & Kinect Sports just arrived from Microsoft. I've got the day off Friday so I'm going to have to work out what order to play them in.

                                I'm loving Kinect!! I have to move my sofa in order to have enough room to play but that's a small price to pay for the laughing that ensues.

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