Nintendo Wii U (Thread 2!)

[speedlolita]

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-02-08-wii-u-software-1-6-per-cent-of-the-uk-market-in-january

Has this been posted yet?

[originalbadboy]

www.eurogamer.net/kmin-3-delayed-until-2014

Don't even joke about something like that

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/article...ket-in-january

Has this been posted yet?

Worrying? No not really, people seem to be forgetting that the machine has been out for like what 3 months? And since when do launch titles ever account for top ten sales?

The trouble is people are reading way too much into this, as I said before its the 'Chelsea Manager' mentality and tbh if it carries on like this another crash is going to happen.

[Adam Stone]

It is a shame more people arent aware of the Wii U - mostly because there is such fun to be had, esp with titles like NintendoLand. Also, ZombiU truly is the most intense, at times, most terrifying survivor horror i've ever played for a very long time, bettered by the fantastic use of the gamepad. Also Miiverse - and how it is used within titles to share experiences - is simply brilliant... So yes, it is a shame -

Nintendo's biggest failing currently is their marketing... People simply don't know it's a new console. But, personally, i'm not worried about sales. I think as soon as Nintendo get their big hitters out, word will spread and slowly but surely people will understand Wii U isn't only a new controller, but something else entirely.

And Borris! I HATE YOU. That wasn't funny :-p *love you really*

[Adam Stone]

I also think when the next Xbox and Sony consoles are released the Wii U will suddenly become a lot more popular by people who like their second-hand titles!!

Haha! Joke :-p

[teddymeow]

Firing that nuke weapon in Turok on N64 for the first time. Good old days

All about the Chronosceptre!!

[originalbadboy]

Nintendo's biggest failing currently is their marketing... People simply don't know it's a new console. But, personally, i'm not worried about sales. I think as soon as Nintendo get their big hitters out, word will spread and slowly but surely people will understand Wii U isn't only a new controller, but something else entirely.

The thing is the Wii wasn't exactly a rolling success in the first year either, most new consoles aren't, as stated it all seems to be geared towards being as critical about things as soon as they appear as they can, without giving things a chance. The Vita has had a chance for example, as has the 3DS, the WiiU hasn't.

[ETC]

I agree with Adam, they didn't learn from the DS/3DS debacle. Basically marketing ballsed up. If it was called just "Nintendo" or whatever just not Wii it would be known as a new system. It's not like its hard to put a Wiimote in a new box in case they were worried about confusing people that existing stuff worked, basically a note in a new console box telling people they did and new packaging for existing wii products for new adopters easy. It's not like the Wii brand was known for its ultra high quality (I don't mean it had **** games it had its fair share of both) but recalling it Wii is pointless with the people it was trying to "interest" are the exact customer that will think that the Wii-U is the same thing they already have ie an original wii

[Adam Stone]

I also think it is because they focused so much on the gamepad itself.

For instance, the first reveal they didn't showcase the system, they said iit was merely ''a box'', and then focused EVERYTHING on the controller.

I understand why they did that - and i agree with their mentality, however the general public aren't so easily educated. Things need to be explained black and white. They should have never taken the focus away from the console itself, instead they should have focused how the gamepad is totally unique and accentuates the consoles capabilities. It's a very sad marketing truth, but to have a message understood by the masses you need to imagine you are explaining something to a toddler, and then take it from there. Nintendo obviously gave the wider audience more credit - and it back fired: That's me with my business hat on.

Taking that hat off, i 100% agree with their original stance, and i don't believe the power of 'the box' is fundamentally important to a gaming experience, to 'fun' - it is simply a means to an end, but it is fundamental to that end - and Nintendo lost sight of those fundamentals and it created a confused picture. Confusion leads to doubt and uncertainty, which leads to lack of interest and they are the very last things you need when launching a new console.

Nintendo's marketing was wrong from the start. But again, i'm not worried. It was wrong for the 3DS too, yet Nintendo, quite admirably, are often keen to rectify those mistakes and I believe they will.

[ETC]

As long as I still get 4 classics a year they can do what they want. As long as by Christmas I'm playing Pikmin 3 and Windwaker HD and maybe 1 or 2 more I would say that's a decent year 1 as far as I'm concerned anyways

[Adam Stone]

Perhaps we are part of the problem?!

- but I'm the same!

The other games are awesome bonuses... but I'm ultimately happy having my Nintendo fix. So fanboyish, but it is only because of the sheer quality of the games. Roll on Pikmin 3.

[BIG EDD]

Well here's a peace offering from Ubisoft

http://wiiudaily.com/2013/02/ubisoft-to-offer-wii-u-owners-an-exclusive-rayman-legends-demo/

[Dogg Thang]

The thing is the Wii wasn't exactly a rolling success in the first year either

The Wii was a massive success in its first year. Such short memories we have... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii_launch#Sales

[Brad]

Yep. Bought mine at launch; walked out of the indie I got it from and was offered ?400 for it by a woman waiting by the front door. IN hindsight I should have taken her money but that's beside the point. Huge success right out the gate with supply shortages all over the world.

[fishbowlhead]

Yep. Bought mine at launch; walked out of the indie I got it from and was offered ?400 for it by a woman waiting by the front door. IN hindsight I should have taken her money but that's beside the point. Huge success right out the gate with supply shortages all over the world.

Indeed, not to mention that it was recycled technology that was proven and cheap to produce, but it was a huge hit numbers wise and Nintendo made a very good profit on every console sold from day one. It was win win for them, all the while Sony and MS were loosing money left right and centre.

I just can't fault their business sense at all, it was sheer brilliance from that point of view, especially when you consider just the profits from the Wii consoles sold have paid for the wiiU development and launch, along with the console after that too, they probably still had change to spare adter all that too.

[SUMIRE]

A bit Off topic but how long does it take for network premium points to be added to your account when you buy something digital from the store?