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    And to be clear here... the same applies to Xbox in equal measure... which is why I want to see less Forza and more Indiana Jones.

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      Originally posted by nonny View Post

      I'm not wanting to sound negative here but Miles Morales, Demon Souls, Ratchet & Clank, Gran Turismo 7, The Last of Us Part One, Horizon Forbidden West and God of War Ragnarok... They're all great titles in their own right... but they're all built off their predecessors.

      Give me something fresh with no prior expectation.
      This. There’s nothing on that list I have any interest in. What’s the point being the largest proper console platform and not taking a few risks. Bring back the days of stuff like Rez, Space Channel 5 and Jet Set Radio.

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        I think when Sony does announce something new as a major game it's still draped in the not new vibe. I know nothing about Wolverine but I'm, already semi-disinterested in it because I feel I can picture it in my mind.

        Spider-Man is decent but in most ways it's effectively just a modernised update of the Spider-Man 2 game. Insomniac took their lead from a prior interpretation and added the Sony AAA third person bells and whistles to it. Fuelled by that success I fully expect Wolverine will follow the same model, taking some inspiration from the well received Origins game for its combat and making it more of an over the shoulder third person title... probably with a mouthy sidekick or two.

        They're not at all alone in their stagnancy but with Sony I have the distinct sense they're getting worse whereas the others have a road to improvement... maybe. The big three used to be the stars of the E3 period but these days they're close to being the least interesting.

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          Originally posted by CMCK
          This. There’s nothing on that list I have any interest in. What’s the point being the largest proper console platform and not taking a few risks. Bring back the days of stuff like Rez, Space Channel 5 and Jet Set Radio.


          I feel like Sony were absolutely ferocious on first party last gen. They took big chances that (mostly) paid off handsomely. This gen is a bit of a victory lap so far, which is a shame.

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            I think I said on the Xbox thread that Xbox don't have to always be aiming for mega AAA games. I'll say the same for Sony. I'm not always looking for the big shiny shiny, but just a fun romp or a Racer, or strategy game. Some small side projects from the bigger developers.

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              Exactly and particularly so with MS who should be looking for a greater frequency of titles to support GP



              Sony unveils the Access Controller

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                Originally posted by wakka View Post
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                I feel like Sony were absolutely ferocious on first party last gen. They took big chances that (mostly) paid off handsomely. This gen is a bit of a victory lap so far, which is a shame.
                I think this sums it up really nicely. I think they've sensibly and strategically played it safe this far... supporting last gen and dropping sequels from established teams with vast knowledge of established game engines.

                It's a very smart play but equally it's zero risk. They're comfortable now... so now I want them to push out of their comfort zone and do something crazy.

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                  They won't, we've seen Sony enter this Leader Zen zone before and it was their absolute worst era till the bubble burst on them and then they became amazing again for a generation because they had to work for it

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                    They need to be some big news For PSVR2, its a pipe dream but Backwards compatibility could go a long way to filling the gaps in its library, a software level fix to fool the ps5 into into thinking its using move controllers or a ps4 pad would be a quick and dirty fix, or maybe Sony could invest in the platform for a change and have a team adding games to PSVR2 BC like Microsoft did with its BC team. Rolling out a few PSVR BC games a month to PS+ premium would be a lot more of a perk than old PS2/PS1/PSP games.

                    Whats more likely to happen though is at the most we will get some big fanfare around the PSVR2 version of Beatsabre with a £15 fee to upgrade your psvr1 version and maybe if we are really lucky an announcement for A new Blood and truth or Astro Bot VR.

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                      We should see at least one notable first party title revealed for it.
                      I'm still trying to really hold back when it comes to PSVR2... I feel enough time has passed though that it's become pretty obvious how everything is going to pan out with it and how support will be, which will be weaker than PSVR1

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                        It’s only been out for three months give it a chance. Three months into this generation of console I’d have written the PS5 and Series consoles as backwards compatible flops.

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                          I really need to replay Blood & Truth and Astrobot, nice wee reminder there!

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                            The early (and still now mid) life of the consoles has been disappointing in content but they've been high demand, rapid update, news focused, widely discussed things. PSVR2 very quickly slipped into silence to the point hardly anyone even realised it was moving to being retailer available. Even though it's a peripheral it needs to operate as a platform in of itself because its line up is bespoke to it and to be a big ticket, unique USP device for a console as insanely popular and socially present as the PS5, it's clear, it isn't going to suddenly explode into life with the public.

                            It's an undoubted shame, I wish VR would crack that nut and become as established as standard platforms, but from pre-release to post-release Sony's approach reeks, absolutely reeks, of mid-life Vita. It's frustrating as Sony is probably the best placed company to make it viable, they are just so bad at handling hardware outside of the main console line. I feel they'll show their hand this summer with their reveals and I'm feeling pretty confident this will be their last VR venture.

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                              VR needs a killer app... much like HL Alyx did for the PC space they need something similar here.

                              The hardware is excellent but I question the software side given the high investment cost. There's plenty of good titles in VR, but I'd argue there hasn't really been an absolute banger.

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                                VR will never be like that, it’s too closed off to the user of the device. Unlike a console on a tv, or a handheld even, where people can look on and play with you. It’s also an expensive extra on top of your gaming system, so there’s also a big price barrier.

                                Also, it makes a lot of people nauseous, which is also a big issue.

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