LCD/Plasma/CRT/DLP - questions

[themanwithapc]

I cannot believe it. I've just had a shocking revelation about my LCD. It seems as if the Sharp GA6E DOES allow backlight adjustment on ALL inputs, despite me having told some people (mainly andrewfee) otherwise.

The thing is, backlight and some other things are universal, and affect ALL inputs, so they don't appear on all the 'HD' outputs (component, VGA, HDMI). However, contrasts and brightness can be adjusted per input. Sorry for misleading anyone.......

[sputnick]

And for anyone with ?1450 to spare, a big review of my new BRAVIA KDL-32V2000:
http://www.lyris-lite.net/kdl32v2000_review.html

Or join in the BRAVIA jamboree over at the AV Forums:
http://www.avforums.com/forums/showt...312863&page=22

i think i've just found the screen for me.

lyris i dont suppose you could post some pics of 360 running on the screen??

also maybe a couple of pics of gc, ps2 in rgb??

cheers mate.

[Lyris]

Wow - are you totally sure? That's pretty misleading of Sharp (but great news) if it's true.

i think i've just found the screen for me.

lyris i dont suppose you could post some pics of 360 running on the screen??

also maybe a couple of pics of gc, ps2 in rgb??

cheers mate.

Oh now that is when things get tricky!

I don't have a 360 or PS2 because none of the games so far have interested me. I also use Component for the GameCube.

BUT I can tell you that HD video over Component (for the 360) and RGB over SCART once tweaked give very, very good results. So I can't get you the pictures you asked for but there's no reason why those things shouldn't look good.


GameCube in 480p (sorry it's so dark)


Upscaled DVD (the edge enhancement is on the disk, not the TV's fault)


Xbox 480p

More pics in action over at the AV Forums:

http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2909273#post2909273

[sputnick]

cheers man thats just the trick, beautiful screen, empire direct have it at just shy of ?1500

tbh its between this and the panny ldx60 32 incher.

hmmm ?500 in it!!

[Lyris]

tbh its between this and the panny ldx60 32 incher.

hmmm ?500 in it!!

The Panasonic doesn't let you adjust the backlight (so you're at the mercy of the manufacturer's "SUPER BRIGHT SCREEN!!!!!!") so I didn't even look at it sadly. But it does have 2x HDMI...

What do you value more? Convenience and saved cash, or better black levels?

Go and see both and tell me what you think if you get the chance.

[themanwithapc]

Wow - are you totally sure? That's pretty misleading of Sharp (but great news) if it's true.

It is true. I've tweaked about with VGA and brightness and it does seem to have an effect. I'll see if component is the same, as I found this out from someone on Avforums, who said backlight affects HDMI, but I don't have anything on HDMI to try yet.

EDIT: Yes, as I thought, it also affects the backlight on component. So, you can have per input settings with regards to colour, contrast and the linke, but backlight is universal over all inputs. Great if you want to reduce it to a minimum anyway.

[sputnick]

The Panasonic doesn't let you adjust the backlight (so you're at the mercy of the manufacturer's "SUPER BRIGHT SCREEN!!!!!!") so I didn't even look at it sadly. But it does have 2x HDMI...

What do you value more? Convenience and saved cash, or better black levels?

Go and see both and tell me what you think if you get the chance.

well with panny not only have they always made great plasma, but their rep with lcd is brilliant too.

have heard good things and in currys with a beyonce hd trailer it looked pretty marvelous tbh.

difficult desiscion really, your sony looks superb.......but is backlight control alone(which i suspect is really the only big advantage) worth ?500 more?

hmmmmm need to think this out and do some homework.

trouble is finding online reviews for lcd tv screens is really difficult! anyone know any sites that review lcd tv's regularly???

[themanwithapc]

well with panny not only have they always made great plasma, but their rep with lcd is brilliant too.

have heard good things and in currys with a beyonce hd trailer it looked pretty marvelous tbh.

difficult desiscion really, your sony looks superb.......but is backlight control alone(which i suspect is really the only big advantage) worth ?500 more?

hmmmmm need to think this out and do some homework.

trouble is finding online reviews for lcd tv screens is really difficult! anyone know any sites that review lcd tv's regularly???

Get on over to avforums and read up a few threads about both. Why don't you consider the new S Series by Sony. It's about the same price as the LX60 AFAIK. Performance is meant to be better than last years V series.

[Lyris]

Yeah, consider the S. Almost all the same tweaks as the V and great quality.

The trailers would look great in any shop because they're really brightly lit. When you take an LCD home and switch the lights off (or even if it's just dark outside), backlight control becomes tremendously important.

[andrewfee]

I cannot believe it. I've just had a shocking revelation about my LCD. It seems as if the Sharp GA6E DOES allow backlight adjustment on ALL inputs, despite me having told some people (mainly andrewfee) otherwise.

The thing is, backlight and some other things are universal, and affect ALL inputs, so they don't appear on all the 'HD' outputs (component, VGA, HDMI). However, contrasts and brightness can be adjusted per input. Sorry for misleading anyone.......

That's great news; it's just a shame the "better" GD7E I bought had no backlight adjustment at all, and (iirc) less adjustments overall. I can't believe Sharp charge more for it when the GA6 is clearly the better set; it only lacks an inbuilt tuner. (which wasn't all that good anyway)

difficult desiscion really, your sony looks superb.......but is backlight control alone(which i suspect is really the only big advantage) worth ?500 more?

hmmmmm need to think this out and do some homework.

trouble is finding online reviews for lcd tv screens is really difficult! anyone know any sites that review lcd tv's regularly???

There's also the improved Wide-Colour Gamut CCFL (WCG-CCFL) backlight system used in the Sony V series which improves red and green reproduction, which is where LCDs are typically lacking. This should result in much more vivid, and natural colours than any other LCD out there. I don't think the Panasonic has a PC input either.

I'd probably go for the S if you can't justify the cost of the V; it's basically the same, minus the improved backlight. (which means it's about the same as any other LCD)

http://www.trustedreviews.com/ Seems to be the most up to date place I've seen reviewing LCDs, although I'm not sure if their reviews are worth much. (not really read many; just scanned a few)


I did not expect the new Sony series of LCDs to be coming so soon, so after only a few months with my "temporary" LCD, I've got a 32V2000 which should be arriving tomorrow.

Lyris has beaten me to it, but I will be doing a full review of this set myself. Unfortunately my Spyder 2 Pro is away for repairs, so I won't be able to do a full calibration or get temperature readings, but I suspect I will be keeping this one. (the main thing putting me off last year's V was the lack of VGA and price; both of which have been addressed)

Apparently WEGA was not designed for LCDs, which could also explain the "soft, yet over-sharpened" look I was seeing on the A12U.

[sputnick]

andrewfree and lyris.........what do you guys think of this tv??

Sony KDL26S2010U 26" ?747.26p at empire direct.

i'm assuming its the same panel but without the colour boosting performance? res,response time, write up is same other wise.

[themanwithapc]

andrewfree and lyris.........what do you guys think of this tv??

Sony KDL26S2010U 26" ?747.26p at empire direct.

i'm assuming its the same panel but without the colour boosting performance? res,response time, write up is same other wise.

It's only ?800 for the newer model. I'd recommend going for that.

[sputnick]

It's only ?800 for the newer model. I'd recommend going for that.

newer model??

this was the only sony at this price range mate, on empire at least?

have you got the model number for the newer model??

[themanwithapc]

newer model??

this was the only sony at this price range mate, on empire at least?

have you got the model number for the newer model??

My mistake (I seem to be making a lot of these recently ). The model you're looking at is the newer one.

Andrewfee: The backlight sensor on the GA6E also seems to work if you turn it on (overriding the manual settings). The backlight 'adjusts' according to the condtions. However, it's very annoying, as the backlight keeps changing constantly and can be very distracting.

[Chunky]

I was in John Lewis in Reading on Saturday trying to decide between the Toshiba 32WLT66 and the Samsung LE32R74BDX. My observations on the differences are

Samsung has contract ratio of 5000:1, Toshiba has 1200:1
Samsung has 1 HDMI socket, Toshiba has 2
Samsung seemed to display Sky via co-ax worse than the Toshiba

I need to decide which of these two i want really, i guess i can get a HDMI splitter ? to cover that problem, and other than that it's whether i want better contrast or a better picture. Anyone have any comments or recommendations ?