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    #91
    I assumed we all spend far more time reading about new games and watching vids of them than actually playing games and so should all have realised that it wasn't going to be old school Sega Rally just because they'd reused the name.

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      #92
      I understand the "it's not sega rally" disappointment but I don't think the remit was to do that - Sega Rally is much better suited to the XBLA or PSN these days with it's very short, very arcade-centric playstyle and game mode.

      As could be seen from DC sega rally 2 once you take it home and start having to add extra cars/tracks and tuning options(?) to prolong the experience you take away from what made it what it was in the first place.

      I'm well pleased with how it has turned out and I suspect the finished game will be even better as I can only imagine online multiplayer being an absolute blast

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        #93
        I won't write it off yet, since many a demo hasn't painted the whole picture for a few titles I've tried out (Forza 2 anyone?) and I've got Stranglehold to chop in for it, so I'm hoping the retail one will impress me the same way.

        If anything, if I can get my head around the handling mechanics, it'll be nice to have a proper online MP experience.

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          #94
          Can't we get past the frame rate chat? It's the same dullness every time. "30fps = rubbish" "No! 30fps = stable and good enough" "No! 30fps = rubbish" (repeat ad infinitum). If you can't cope with racing games at 30fps then what on earth have you actually been playing over the last 2 years Ah bugger. I'm bound to have offended someone. It was meant as a joke. Thank you Please. I much prefer Forza2 being in 60fps, but I don't care about reading it constantly on the interweb is what I meant.

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            #95
            Entirely agree with Yoshimax's first 2 paragraphs above.

            The MP online racing in this should be really close due to the nature of the game so much better than the single player I reckon.

            The driver height in-car is even more ridiculous than Forza. When overtaking, it's like you are driving a truck and looking straight down on the other cars.

            Very fast restart though

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              #96
              Originally posted by charlesr View Post
              If you can't cope with racing games at 30fps then what on earth have you actually been playing over the last 2 years.
              Indeed. There is a place for Frame rate chat as it is important but I'm now sick of listening to people deride game for being 30fps.

              Kotatsu, I'm looking at you.

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                #97
                No need to get personal dude. There's plenty of other people that talk about this too much.

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                  #98
                  Leone is the official NTSC-UK fps whore ffs. He's proud of it

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                    #99
                    Had some games yesterday.

                    On framerates. Well it looked smooth a good to me. (43inch plasma 720p)

                    On visuals. Looks OK. Parts of the canyon run looks more than OK but it isn't a DIRT beater. It's rock solid framerate is a welcome change!

                    On gameplay. I can't get on with the handling. I miss that feeling of grip when you hit the tarmac. I miss the control on the corners.

                    I love arcade racers and thought DIRT was great fun. (But with some dubious trucking thown in, and missed online opeprtunities) I was hoping this was going to be better, and the ultimate problem is the handling. It just seems damn floaty and just not fun.

                    Colour me dissapointed.

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                      its the kind of conversation that sucks the joy out of gaming and often seems to lead to more posts for previews or pre-release threads than in the first play bit once the game gets released.

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                        This demo makes me smile.I love it GAME OVER YEAAAAHHH!

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                          Originally posted by charlesr View Post
                          No need to get personal dude. There's plenty of other people that talk about this too much.
                          I'll have a go at them as well then! Only joshing!

                          Originally posted by merf View Post
                          its the kind of conversation that sucks the joy out of gaming and often seems to lead to more posts for previews or pre-release threads than in the first play bit once the game gets released.
                          This is what does it for me. It would be gret to have every game as 60fps or more but it's not possible for every title and is perfect to have it as 30fps.

                          Anywho I really like the demo but feel that Colin McRae Dirt has passed the Sega Rally series for thrills and feeling. I adore the vibe though and will more than likely be buying the game.

                          Best bit is on the sea side course on the start line when the player spins the tyres and... They spin in the deep sand! Never really been done as well as this before and I'm looking forward to how the game shapes up.

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                            Originally posted by Wools View Post

                            This is what does it for me. It would be gret to have every game as 60fps or more but it's not possible for every title and is perfect to have it as 30fps.
                            I don't want to prolong this but I had to pull you up on that point.

                            While it may not be possible for *all* games to be 60fps, it's absolutely possible for Sega Rally to be 60fps. It's an incredibly controlled, linear environment, where geometry and texture levels can be perfectly controlled.

                            Add to that the arcade heritage of the series (you can count the number of 30fps SEGA arcade racers on a few fingers) and that the 2 big racers on each platform - Forza 2 on 360, and GT Prologue/HD on PS3 are 60fps then I'm not seeing much of an excuse.

                            Obviously some people are fine with 30fps and good for them if they are. Some are not and to personally attack people because of that seems a touch unfair. You will I hope agree that there are perfectly valid reasons for wanting 60fps in quick moving games at least...

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                              Originally posted by capcom_suicide View Post
                              Colour me dissapointed.
                              you're not alone.

                              the beta i played at GC was so much fun. but the demo isn't. guess i need to check out the final game.

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                                Originally posted by Kotatsu Neko View Post
                                Obviously some people are fine with 30fps and good for them if they are. Some are not and to personally attack people because of that seems a touch unfair. You will I hope agree that there are perfectly valid reasons for wanting 60fps in quick moving games at least...
                                There are, but what many of us find ourselves slapping our foreheads over is that a few people are soooo hung up on 60fps that:

                                a) they won't play a game less than 60fps
                                b) they won't shut up reminding everyone else about it at every god given oppurtunity

                                Okay, you don't like 30 FPS - WE GET IT!!! MOVE ON!!!

                                In the words of David Byrne:

                                'If I've nothing to say, my lips are sealed,
                                Say something once, why say it again'

                                (BTW I'm aware of the irony that I've posted that before, but some people seem to completely lack the basic knowledge that harping on about a small point = BORING!!!)

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