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    If only I could find the castrol GTX jacket also.

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      why does a Mini Cooper 1.3 (98) not qualify as a British Lightweight?

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        Because YOU Germans STOLE IT!

        *RRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR *

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          i see, it's just the brand property that counts. however, i am sure in the hearts and minds of our generation the Mini will always stay very British

          what about Lamborghini? isn't the brand owned by Audi as well?
          Last edited by Uli; 12-12-2010, 19:43.

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            And don't even get me start on those fat abortions! Especially that new "country man" You got a lot to answer for Rolf!

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              Originally posted by Uli View Post
              why does a Mini Cooper 1.3 (98) not qualify as a British Lightweight?
              It's always worth checking the race entry requirements as it'll have a list of all the requirements that you need to fulfil, this series only has two:
              Weight: Max. 1200kg
              Country: United Kingdom

              Any requirements your car fulfils will have a tick by them and any it doesn't will be highlighted in orange so you'll always know why you can't use that car.

              Minis are correctly listed as German as BMW produces what are essentially BMWs inside and out.

              With Lamborghini it's a little different as Automobili Lamborghini S.p.A. still design and manufacture the cars in Northern Italy somewhere even though they are now a subsidiary of AUDI AG in Germany.

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                Originally posted by John Parry View Post
                It's always worth checking the race entry requirements as it'll have a list of all the requirements that you need to fulfil, this series only has two:
                Weight: Max. 1200kg
                Country: United Kingdom

                Any requirements your car fulfils will have a tick by them and any it doesn't will be highlighted in orange so you'll always know why you can't use that car.

                Minis are correctly listed as German as BMW produces what are essentially BMWs inside and out.

                With Lamborghini it's a little different as Automobili Lamborghini S.p.A. still design and manufacture the cars in Northern Italy somewhere even though they are now a subsidiary of AUDI AG in Germany.
                The '98 Mini was a Rover and also has the wrong engine capacity.

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                  Sorry, you've quoted me but I'm not sure what your point is with those two facts?

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                    Originally posted by John Parry View Post
                    Sorry, you've quoted me but I'm not sure what your point is with those two facts?
                    "With Lamborghini it's a little different as Automobili Lamborghini S.p.A. still design and manufacture the cars in Northern Italy somewhere even though they are now a subsidiary of AUDI AG in Germany."

                    The Rover Mini was built and designed in the UK what's the difference?

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                      It's a 1998 Mini that he's using in a 2010 game. If he was playing this game in 1998 Mini was a British brand, he's not and it isn't.

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                        The 1998 Rover Mini Cooper was British, they can't reinvent the past. As said it should apply to all makers if it applies to one. Lotus shouldn't of been in the British lightweights either.

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                          I have no idea what you're talking about to be honest.

                          Lamborghini are registered as an Italian company, they build the cars it Italy and while that persists it's correct that whatever they produce is registered as an Italian product.

                          The registered address for Automobili Lamborghini S.p.A (Had to look this address up) is:
                          40019 Sant'Agata Bolognese
                          Bologna
                          Italy

                          I still don't understand the point that you're trying to make and I'm not sure how the listed engine capacity in the '98 Mini Cooper 1.3 or even in the '98 Mini Cooper 1.3i would have any bearing on the county of manufacture?

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                            The '98 Mini was effectively a Rover. Rover, I presume was a UK registered company at that time so the car ought to be British.

                            I don't see the problem really with its origin as I suspect it would stand no chance against the other lightweights due to lack of power. Having said that the VW Microbus can be tuned up to 202 HP and seeing as the mini has more initial HP maybe it could be a contender. Has anyone tuned it fully?

                            Then again some other details in the game leave a little to be desired so I suppose we ought to expect these things! Louis Hamilton at McLaren... close!

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                              Originally posted by John Parry View Post
                              I have no idea what you're talking about to be honest.

                              Lamborghini are registered as an Italian company, they build the cars it Italy and while that persists it's correct that whatever they produce is registered as an Italian product.

                              The registered address for Automobili Lamborghini S.p.A (Had to look this address up) is:
                              40019 Sant'Agata Bolognese
                              Bologna
                              Italy

                              I still don't understand the point that you're trying to make and I'm not sure how the listed engine capacity in the '98 Mini Cooper 1.3 or even in the '98 Mini Cooper 1.3i would have any bearing on the county of manufacture?
                              Well going by your defence the later MG roadsters should be classed as Chinese and I bet the Veyron is down as Italian too(when it could be classed as German). You are arguing over the MINI branding, which only applies to the BMW models. I expect these to be classed as German, the 98 mini was sold as a Rover car and was made at Longbridge. Mini is the name of the car not the brand.

                              There are also a number of faults with the car, the engine is not a 1271, the term 1275cc is well known amongst all mini users. The weight is far too light for a mini of that year, the alloys wheels are completely wrong and the wheel arches are wrong too. If I remember rightly it was also wrong in the Japanese version of GT4 that I had to import because it was rumoured BMW had asked for the old mini to be keep out of the European release of GT4.

                              For a supposed homage and encyclopaedia to all things automotive they can't even get some of the basics right. I think Kaz spent 3 years working how to copy and paste the files from his GT4 car models folder to the GT5 one then another year making the best looking trams I've ever seen and then the last year was a typical omg last minute all night uni project affair.

                              It's a shame he didn't build a tramway track because the trams look better than 2/3rds of the cars.

                              Oh and bassman fully tuned the mini is around 180 bhp

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                                Bugatti originates from France, and the Veyron is built by Volkswagen. I don't know if it works in Schwarzwald, probably not.

                                But hey, GT5 and inconsistencies? Whats new.

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