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    Originally posted by HaHa
    Who the hell goes to a supermarket to buy an LCD?
    You try to genuinely advise these folk better than any sales staff would and they look at you like you're a ****ing knob who doesn't deserve to be talking to them, or some mentally retarded loon who just talks to random people.

    I might dress up like a Dixons sales staff member and just stand in the shop all day long trying to advise folk - I did this for 3 months in 2004 when I worked at Gamestation and it did **** all.

    One woman came in looking for an Xmas pressie for her BF. His favourite game series ever was Resident Evil although he didn't have a PSone or a PS2. So, fair do's, I recommend a Gamecube with all the Resi's - we throw Res1,2+3,+CV+Zero in for free as well as Prime1 and an RGB lead (and a courtesy Res4 pre-order) for like ?100. After Xmas he brings it back to trade for a PS2 and outbreak - the dirty ****.

    Originally posted by HaHa
    Who the hell goes to a supermarket to buy an LCD?
    ****. That's who.

    ...in other words... 99% of the people you see every day. These ****ers'd still be watching terrestrial TV through RF if digital wasn't force fed to them. There is absolutely no motivation to push things further in this country - and that applies to absolutely everything... technology, health, lifestyle, well-being, etc...

    People must just think it's a hobby of mine to get the most out of my expensive gear that takes me so long to save up for.

    Right, I have a cracking plan: This dinner time I have to go home to upload some HTML - after that is done I'm going to walk into Dixons and explain that I'm after a HD LCD at around 40". When they show me what's on display I'm going to comment on how wank the picture looks and then walk away.
    Last edited by dataDave; 11-01-2006, 11:05.

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      Originally posted by Rossco
      I think technically to be HD-Ready the size needs to be at least 23"? I cant be bothered looking it up so someone else can confirm that.
      Don't think so. You could have a HD-Ready postage stamp as long as it met all the tech specs.
      Last edited by SubparMario; 11-01-2006, 11:10.

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        Originally posted by Shakey_Jake33

        That said, they fly out the door... dispite being 1280x768
        That's better for stuff like Xbox360 as it's nearer the native res of 720p (1280x720)

        All you get is tiny borders top and bottom (no scaling req)

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          Originally posted by DavidFallows
          ****. That's who.

          ...in other words... 99% of the people you see every day. These ****ers'd still be watching terrestrial TV through RF if digital wasn't force fed to them. There is absolutely no motivation to push things further in this country - and that applies to absolutely everything... technology, health, lifestyle, well-being, etc...

          People must just think it's a hobby of mine to get the most out of my expensive gear that takes me so long to save up for.

          Right, I have a cracking plan: This dinner time I have to go home to upload some HTML - after that is done I'm going to walk into Dixons and explain that I'm after a HD LCD at around 40". When they show me what's on display I'm going to comment on how wank the picture looks and then walk away.

          I think thats well harsh. 99% of people don't know the difference between all of these outputs.

          Do you wear all the latest designer gear and make it all match so it looks its optimum best? Probably not, nor do I. But someone who does may say you are a **** for doing that.

          Its essentially what you are saying about TVs.

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            Originally posted by cutmymilk
            I think thats well harsh. 99% of people don't know the difference between all of these outputs.

            Do you wear all the latest designer gear and make it all match so it looks its optimum best? Probably not, nor do I. But someone who does may say you are a **** for doing that.

            Its essentially what you are saying about TVs.
            Let me try and rephrase

            Its like buying a ferrari, then trying fueling it with milk

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              Not really because these people pay the price for a TV and dont use it to its fullest potential which is just plain stupid.

              You spend ?500 on an Armani suit, and you wear it, what else do you do, you cant wear it wrongly, theres only one way to wear it, but theres lots of ways to watch TV. And 99% of people dont watch TV at the best quality they could be.

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                Originally posted by cutmymilk
                Do you wear all the latest designer gear and make it all match so it looks its optimum best? Probably not, nor do I. But someone who does may say you are a **** for doing that.
                That's the same as saying I'm a cock for not having an entirely matching Sony/Pana/Philips home AV centre with screen, speakers, amp, HD-DVD etc.. everything from the same manufacturer (which I know some people would rather have over actual product functional quality).

                "It might not be the best for the money, but LOOK!!! It ALL MATCHES!!!!!"

                This argument breaches opinion and goes into actual hard fact. People with Big HD ready LCDs NOT USING THE HD FUNCTION DO NOT DESERVE THE EQUIPMENT!!!

                These folk go out with ?2K in their back pockets to buy a "Flat telly", they get sold on the HD sticker in-store (on a TV that isn't even running in HD mode), take it home, and expect HD goodness. Then they're wowed over the size of it and think that's 'HD'. Jesus - I know people who are fully aware of HD and yet can't afford the ?700 jump for a measly 26".

                It's like some rich daddy's girl getting a Ferrari for her 21st and then only using it to drive to the Spar and back in 2nd gear.

                People that don't set their PC monitors to their native res **** me off too. EVERYONE here at work is on 1024x when these screens are 1280x. I hate jumping on someone elses PC and having smear-o-vision on.

                "Well, you angry northern ****er, ever thought they may have bad eyesight?" - you may ask.

                Well they should get glasses then shouldn't they!? If they can't even read some fonts in front of them why are they even out on the roads driving???????
                Last edited by dataDave; 11-01-2006, 13:28.

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                  Originally posted by cutmymilk
                  I think thats well harsh. 99% of people don't know the difference between all of these outputs.
                  Then why spend all that money on a new TV then it's going to be smaller than what they already have?

                  I'll tell you why, because it's FLAT! That's it. They don't give a tuppenny **** about the quality, as long as the unit itself is physically flat and looks new it doesn't matter.

                  Some woman here at work bought her Husband and kids a 36" Panasonic I think it is for Xmas - Had a look and Voila - Composite all over the place.

                  "Why the hell are you using these **** cables!!?!?"

                  "As long as it keeps the kids quiet I'm happy"

                  I give up. I need to move to Japan or anywhere where people have a clue.

                  I really wish manufacturers would leave out analogue outputs on all future Equipment. Who, in their educated right mind, would go out and buy a ?500 HD-DVD player to go home and output it in composite? All that does is take the HD out of HD. But I guarantee it - most people will, and they'll think they see the increase in quality. Just like all those braindead zombies that bought a PS2 slimline and think the gfx are slightly better than the original.
                  Last edited by dataDave; 11-01-2006, 13:36.

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                    It makes me wonder how many people went out an bought an HD tv or a really ****e asda jobbo, and connected their new 360 to it via composite or didn't pay enough attention to switch to HD on the cable.

                    I bet there are droves of people who have done this

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                      Umm, David:

                      1) Lots of people just want an LCD panel because it takes up less roomspace. They couldn't care less about HD picture quality, because the Simpsons are just as funny through composite even if you can't admire the ability of those outsourced animators quite as well.

                      2) I like to think I have a vague idea of what I'm talking about with these things, even though I have no money to go out and buy a new TV at all right now. For that matter, I can't afford anything to act as an HD source either, so my 32" CRT is doing a perfectly happy job. Suggesting I don't deserve TV because I'm not prepared to go another grand into debt is a bit silly.

                      3) I know someone who runs their 1280 monitor at 1024 here. It's not because they're stupid, but just because they have sufficiently poor eyesight (and yes, they do wear glasses) that the tradeoff between sharpness and text size is worth it for them.

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                        Originally posted by mid
                        Umm, David:


                        2) I like to think I have a vague idea of what I'm talking about with these things, even though I have no money to go out and buy a new TV at all right now. For that matter, I can't afford anything to act as an HD source either, so my 32" CRT is doing a perfectly happy job. Suggesting I don't deserve TV because I'm not prepared to go another grand into debt is a bit silly.
                        I'm not saying that pal, I myself don't have a HD TV - I'm using my crappy octopus period inducing Dell 19" job for the 360 until I can afford a projector. I'm saying that you don't deserve TV if you have a bloody big HD thing you don't need or appreciate properly. That equipment would be better off in the hands of someone like yourself or one of my HD craving friends, or me even!

                        If I didn't have my 360 I'd be using RGB for my GC (until I get the projector then I'll get the component lead ). I'm happy with RGB, and I'm more than happy with it for my retro stuff.

                        Read my earlier posts - I had the same chip on my shoulder concerning composite > RGB. It's not even RGB > HD now - it's gone to bloody Composite to HD!!!

                        Like I said, they should ditch composite input. You should have to buy a HD downscaler that costs ?80,000 or something if you want to use composite, or buy the right cables at ?20.

                        If you want to be super-posh then you can go and buy some of that real expensive cable. Although, even I've never been able to tell the difference between stuff that's gold plated or not so I wouldn't go as far as recommending that.
                        Last edited by dataDave; 11-01-2006, 14:03.

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                          one observation : All those people who piss me off with these kind of thing are the same ones who bought need for speed and Fifa on their 360

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                            Originally posted by DavidFallows
                            Jesus - I know people who are fully aware of HD and yet can't afford the ?700 jump for a measly 26".
                            Sorry mate, I just misinterpreted that bit. I see what you mean now.

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                              It's all quite funny when you consider there are people like some of us lot muleing over the differencs between Component and VGA, and most people claim to not be able to see the difference between Composite and RGB. I got terrible vision, but I can take one look at a TV and be able to tell you if it's composite or not.

                              I'm not expecting people to be tech heads like us and know what the difference is, they've never had a reason to know. But you'd think that if people were willing to blow a months wages on that LCD HDTV, you'd think to yourself "okay, what am I going to have to do to make this look the best".
                              Sony/MS/Ninty don't help matters by shipping Composite leads with their consoles so they can charge ?30 for the RGB cables separate, knowing people like me will buy them. Quite why they want their (then) fancy new hi-tech games consoles looking ****ty in composite is anyones guess mind.

                              Plenty of people come into work, saved long and hard to buy anew TV (note - these are not the type of people getting a 360/PS3 anytime soon...), have a budget of about ?300, yet buy that cheap LCD TV instead of the much nicer, larger CRT's we have. Really, with a budget of ?300, you may as well get a nice(ish) quality CRT instead of the poor quality LCD's.

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                                Originally posted by EvilBoris
                                one observation : All those people who piss me off with these kind of thing are the same ones who bought need for speed and Fifa on their 360
                                Ah - because they're "HD Optimised" ?? 8)

                                Gotta love the EA-speak.

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