They're both good friends (JJ and Greg Grunberg). He was in Alias, Mission Impossible, Lost, and did a voice for Cloverfield.
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another crap episode this week.
More bloomin questions and no answers. Still not clear whether
Jacob is good or evil? I mean if Jacob is the good guy why only talk to hugo? why not tell his followers what needs to be done etc. The lighthouse thing was cool though. I think another theme which has some part to play is whether people are destined to do things or whether they have choices. Locke always believed in destiny and Jack believed in choices (well he did until locke convinced him to go back to the island) What seems more likely is that Jack is being primed as the next Jacob. And the reason why Jack, Kate, Hugo, Sun and Sayid came back was because they were candidates?
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Jacob only talks to Hurley because Jacob is dead and Hurley can talk to the dead.
To me it's clear that Jacob represents faith while Locke/Smokie represents only believing what you see. Smokie always appears physically when he's trying to get people to do what he wants, often offering the promise of revealing all so people know why they're doing what they're doing.
I think all the time people have had dreams on the island, showing them things and trying to get them to take a certain path, it's Jacob. Jacob isn't allowed to give / promise to give answers, and has to get people to follow him on faith and gut instinct alone (probably part of the rules).
Following Smokie seems to be the easy option, whereas following Jacob is the tough option because you're just relying on faith and no promise you'll ever get any answers.
Not sure what's gonna happen with that alternate universe though! Alternative Jack has an appendix scar but doesn't remember ever having them taken out... Juliet operated on original Jack's appendix on the island... which means... something
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Originally posted by HumanEnergy View Post
Jacob only talks to Hurley because Jacob is dead and Hurley can talk to the dead.
To me it's clear that Jacob represents faith while Locke/Smokie represents only believing what you see. Smokie always appears physically when he's trying to get people to do what he wants, often offering the promise of revealing all so people know why they're doing what they're doing.
I think all the time people have had dreams on the island, showing them things and trying to get them to take a certain path, it's Jacob. Jacob isn't allowed to give / promise to give answers, and has to get people to follow him on faith and gut instinct alone (probably part of the rules).
Following Smokie seems to be the easy option, whereas following Jacob is the tough option because you're just relying on faith and no promise you'll ever get any answers.
Not sure what's gonna happen with that alternate universe though! Alternative Jack has an appendix scar but doesn't remember ever having them taken out... Juliet operated on original Jack's appendix on the island... which means... something
re faith. Ooo just remembered something. I think the alternate universe, I think its goto be fake or the losties got plonked their or something. Firstly, cause of Jack's scar which he doesnt really remember when he had his appendix out. Also, when asked how long his son had played the piano he couldn't remember.
I think its quite a good role reversal for Jack. He intially didnt have faith. It was Locke who always used to believe that. Now Jack is beggining to believe in destiny/fate and Locke (although he is now evil smoke monster dude) is for certainty. I think Jack will become the Islands protector eventually. Jacob just wants him to want it for the right reason.
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I still reckon
that this 'alternate' time line we are watching is really the conclusion to the series. In effect we are watching the begining of the story and the end of the story in unison. Whatever happens in the end, I reckon the losties will get off the island and return back to their world not remembering much about thier travels.......... The random footage of the lost members back home are like jigsaw puzzles to the end.
I quite enjoyed the last episode, but felt it was more stall tactics till they give a bigger reveal of the plot. Oh and how good is it to be able to say that its on again tomorrow!
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Originally posted by 112 View PostI still reckon
that this 'alternate' time line we are watching is really the conclusion to the series. In effect we are watching the begining of the story and the end of the story in unison. Whatever happens in the end, I reckon the losties will get off the island and return back to their world not remembering much about thier travels.......... The random footage of the lost members back home are like jigsaw puzzles to the end.
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Originally posted by jezzace View PostLatest episode is a good 'un. Lots of progress towards forthcoming answers but no actual answers. Action packed episode all round. I love the way old characters keep popping up in the flash-sideways.
the SmokeLockester has put his group of followers together it looks like we're heading for a meatier and more action packed part of the season
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Have to say that I really have enjoyed Sayid's character and story over the past six seasons. His struggles with trying to leave his torturer past behind and fighting to stop others dragging him back into to doing "bad stuff" has been very well done.
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Originally posted by 112 View PostI still reckon
that this 'alternate' time line we are watching is really the conclusion to the series. In effect we are watching the begining of the story and the end of the story in unison. Whatever happens in the end, I reckon the losties will get off the island and return back to their world not remembering much about thier travels.......... The random footage of the lost members back home are like jigsaw puzzles to the end.
There are too many occasions where the action in LA mirrors what's happening on the island, and the connections still seem to be happening. I think both timelines are happening, and at some point they will come together, fusing the two into one somehow.
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latest episode a bit boring. No major reveals, just small ones like
Richard confirming he came to the Island on the black rock and Jacob made him immortal. Most of us already sussed that though. Also seems Charles Widmore was the person Jacob wanted hurley to help find the Island. Is he supposed to save the day? Although a bit boring, it seems that its building up to be some major action when Evil Locke tries to leave
the island.
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