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    Yeah, aren't two-thirds of Tory MPs landlords, or something like that? They'll never vote against them.

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      Transpennine Express is to be taken over by a state run operator


      Interest rates about to increase again

      Sunak accused of ‘behaving like a Borgia’ as Rees-Mogg says he has broken promise to shred retained EU law – UK politics live (theguardian.com)
      Sunak drops the promise to shred EU laws by the end of the year and faces the wrath of the Sith Lord

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        Originally posted by Neon Ignition View Post
        https://www.theguardian.com/business...d-poor-service
        Transpennine Express is to be taken over by a state run operator
        Oh look. Privatisation of railways, when you have no choice of operator is nonsense.

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          Labour and Lib Dems can win big by calling out the Brexit mess | Alastair Campbell | The Guardian
          Absolutely not. Maybe in another 5-10 years but making a loud noise right now will just galvanise the right wing and make next years GE a rehash of 2019. The Tories don't need something so obvious to weaponise. Pro-Brexit citizens thinking Brexit has been handled badly is a very different thing than them believing it should be revoked and in the immediate term any line that ensures the Tories remain locked for crushing defeat needs to be maintained.

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            Originally posted by Neon Ignition View Post
            Labour and Lib Dems can win big by calling out the Brexit mess | Alastair Campbell | The Guardian
            Absolutely not. Maybe in another 5-10 years but making a loud noise right now will just galvanise the right wing and make next years GE a rehash of 2019. The Tories don't need something so obvious to weaponise. Pro-Brexit citizens thinking Brexit has been handled badly is a very different thing than them believing it should be revoked and in the immediate term any line that ensures the Tories remain locked for crushing defeat needs to be maintained.
            Yeah, they need to keep a lid on this, regardless of personal feelings. The break was made, it happened, we need to live with it at least until a situation arises where the public's choice to go back would be a landslide. Anything less and you'll just have Farage back on TV wanting Brexit 2: Brussels Boogaloo in 2040.

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              Farage won’t have time to start Brexit 2, he’s too busy making Cameo videos about “Big Chungus” for teenagers who pay him as some kind of ironic joke.

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                Badenoch got ripped a new arse by Hoyle;
                Sir Lindsay Hoyle scolded Kemi Badenoch for failing to come to the Commons to explain why the government has scrapped its promise to replace all EU laws by the end of the year - but Ms Badenoch vowed: "We will still fully take back control."


                TP Express are quite frankly ****e, meeting in Newcastle last week luckily my train was ok, next one was cancelled. It's a frequent daily occurrence with that shower.

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                  Keir Starmer and all these "Tories with a splash of red accessories"-types need to f off. Labour's step away from protecting the rights of the working class and seeking equality for the marginalised, and general social ideals has been a disaster. Sure, old Labour may be unelectable to the masses of Tory-voting dunces, but they'd still make an effective opposition party and actually stand for something.
                  The idea that by becoming like the thing that you wish to replace but with a few tweaks, is bound to fail -because why vote for Labour when you can have real-deal, true blue Tory thing instead?
                  The founding principles of the party and it's policies have been long forgotten and I know that MPs would argue "we can't do anything, if we're not in power", but Labour spend all their time telling the public which Tory policies they won't change, if they were to get into power, than actually telling us what they will do. And if politics isn't a place for sticking to your core principles and morals, even in the face of unpopularity, then where is?
                  And you don't need to be working-class to hold dear those principles of the classic Labour - Tony Benn was a great example of someone from a very privileged background receiving firm support of the working-class vote and being a highly respected thinker and speaker. Along with others who have experience of actual real work, people that started at the bottom and worked their way up, without nepotism or leg-ups from their old school tie chums, like Alan Johnson, they can understand how ordinary people live and what they experience in day to day life.
                  I mean, what does it mean to be a Labour MP, if it just means you wear a red tie and jeer the people with blue ties? If fundamentally your policies are just like theirs, what's the point?
                  Last edited by gunrock; 12-05-2023, 04:37.

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                    It may well end up not being the case but I've found myself wondering if the lack of stance and policies is a mere strategic decision.

                    Labour is in front but it could very easily be scuppered with so much time before a GE. The lack of clear distinction is frustrating but it also continuously blocks the Tories from creating an attack line like they had in the last few GE's. It's inevitable that Labour will need to lay out its policies at some point as the campaigning begins so I'll be curious to see if it's because they are genuinely full on Tory-lite's now or if they are holding back to go into the GE without being kneecapped by the right wing propaganda machine first.

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                      Originally posted by Anpanman View Post
                      Badenoch got ripped a new arse by Hoyle;
                      https://news.sky.com/story/who-do-yo...-turn-12878350
                      This was great. Gave her a proper Northern telting. Watched it thrice.

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                        Originally posted by Neon Ignition View Post
                        It may well end up not being the case but I've found myself wondering if the lack of stance and policies is a mere strategic decision.

                        Labour is in front but it could very easily be scuppered with so much time before a GE. The lack of clear distinction is frustrating but it also continuously blocks the Tories from creating an attack line like they had in the last few GE's. It's inevitable that Labour will need to lay out its policies at some point as the campaigning begins so I'll be curious to see if it's because they are genuinely full on Tory-lite's now or if they are holding back to go into the GE without being kneecapped by the right wing propaganda machine first.
                        I'd love for it to be a planned 'faint'. Deliberately nodding along with them to sow them up the river and being very grey with their own policies. But I don't think this is the case.

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                          Maybe Nintendo are holding back the power of the WiiU to really surprise us?

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                            BBC editor ‘told colleague not to investigate’ Boris’ £350m Brexit bus claim.

                            I'd expect nothing less from an impartial news outlet.

                            BBC board member Sir Robbie Gibb says infamous £350m claim ‘was not a lie at all – it’s just campaigning’

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                              Originally posted by Dogg Thang View Post
                              Maybe Nintendo are holding back the power of the WiiU to really surprise us?

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                                Originally posted by Cassius_Smoke View Post
                                BBC editor ‘told colleague not to investigate’ Boris’ £350m Brexit bus claim.

                                I'd expect nothing less from an impartial news outlet from a national broadcaster helmed by a Tory Director-General and very recent Tory Chairman with questionable financial links to Boris Johnson.

                                https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2336951.html
                                Corrected.
                                Last edited by Nu-Eclipse; 12-05-2023, 13:26.

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